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I always knew that religion created conflict across the world. Or should I say Organized religion. But in the U.S. right now there is the added complication of it being used for political gain, which actually insights more conflict.

Switchcraft 7 June 15
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It is being used to dumb down the people which is a real crime.

Marine Level 8 June 17, 2018
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The way folks in the currant administration keep throwing out biblical quotes to justify their corrupt policies is disgusting. The Muslim ban, separating children from parents seem the gateway to a theocracy. There is no longer separation of church and state

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IMO, the influence of religion is greatly overstated. The media loves to cry out in alarm about “evangelicals” and how they are taking over government. People I know do not vote the way they do because of religion. They vote according to their political and social opinions. If they were basing their vote on religion, wouldn’t they have voted for Clinton, who is an avowed Methodist, rather than Trump, who is a borderline secularist?

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The separation of church and state was our forefathers dream.

Marine Level 8 June 16, 2018
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It is a bit more complicated and pernicious than that. Too many evangelicals are trying to comingle religion and politics to gain the power to force their dogma down our throats, and too many politicians are using religion to gain votes. The overall result is terribly erosive to our democracy.

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Maybe the major block to religion taking more governmental influence is that the Oligarchs will not want to lose their controlling influence.

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The conflict serves as useful 'divide-and-rule' for our ruling class. So long as we are all fighting amongst each other, we can't see the real enemy.

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I've often wondered what disorganized religion looks like...

               ...heh heh,my apologies,I'm only gently poking fun: I understand what you mean and,from an outsider's point of view it appears to me that the church(es) is/are certainly not separated from the state,in the USofA,inasmuch as their members openly seek,acquire and retain power in the mechanism and executive of government. Indeed,they have to be open and positive about that element of what should be their personal life because to disavow it would be political suicide!

How many openly-atheist/humanist politicians (Founding Fathers not included!) has the USofA in its political history? That's not a rhetorical question,I'd like some data.

As an aside,though,I do take issue with the use of the term 'organized',as though there is any other kind. By definition,there has to be some level of organization and attempt to increase in size and power. That's not to lend the idea of religion any dignity,of course: whilst one person standing in the desert claiming to hear the voice of a sky wizard is worryingly deluded one hundred thousand people doing it is more worrying still. It's just that we can then use 'religion' as term to describe this now-collective delusion.

Worrying times indeed.

(I'm not sure why it's grey-boxed the middle part of my last post. Hmm. It looks like I'm quoting myself...lol)

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Wow, I couldn't agree more! I thought we were supposed to have "separation of church and state" but it sure doesn't seem like that when every damn politician has to shove their so-called "beliefs" down our throats! "In God we trust..." indeed?!

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This is nothing new !

@daylily
Can I just say, he is a Dick, not a Donald ?

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