Just had the heart-breaking realization on a wholey visceral level that the pain of rejection hurt me so deep some time back that it had convinced me that relationships were not for me. So I couldn't understand after so many years why the desire came back, but I went with it, and as I'd started to see someone and we were talking about our relationship histories, and he asked me why it was so long, I actually couldn't give him a clear answer... But now I'm sitting here crying my eyes out as it's hitting me, how much I've been crushed by disappointment, by liking people who never liked me back. And now I've been getting to know someone who I think likes me but doesn't know yet where this is going, and I like him very much but I can't give my heart to him, not unless I knew he wanted to do that, too. We get along well, we have fun together, and both of us are enjoying seeing how this unfolds. We see or talk to each other maybe twice a month, and text or email every few days, and I do appreciate that we're not rushing into anything. And though I'm just trying to enjoy what we have, my old fears and sadness are coming up that this may be another connection that will end in disappointment.
You can't know the outcome, that would take all of the fun out of it. Everything ends at some point, if it hurts when it does then you know it had value in your life. Take the risk.
Just don’t put so many expectations on things. Hell, be indifferent. Who cares if it works out? Just enjoy the ride.
You get what you give, if you're after a dishonest, manipulative, sexist relationship I highly recommend the "rules", it will absolutely work. People rise to our expectations, if you want something better act better yourself. Being vulnerable will leave you open to being hurt but there is also nothing better than being loved for your genuine self. Taking your time and learning to trust sounds to me like that's what you really want.
I see people responding, putting men & women in categories, boxing them in. This is based on your own experiences. I personally take each relationship as unto its own. Prior experiences don’t color my current relationships, except to be aware if this person has some of the same traits, good and bad. For instance if I had a women who treated me poorly in the past I don’t think all future women will do the same. If you can learn why you are choosing people who are rejecting you. Maybe a little introspection is in order. But don’t beat yourself up about past situations impacting your life, as all of us have the same issues
This is the best response I've ever read, regardless of the question. Perfectly said.
I'd say just continue having fun. See where it goes. Enjoy the moments. Check in with how he feels about things and where he stands in a gentle loving way and see what he says. The hardest thing in new relationships, especially after a serious disappointment no matter how long ago, is learning how to open up to someone new. Just keep in mind if you don't take the chance, if you shut him out... the possible disappointment will turn in to a definite disappointment. No one can stay shut out for long without eventually realizing it and moving on. If he seems to care and enjoy your company then it might be time to at least discuss it with him.
And just a little FYI, you are not alone in that disappointment or that not being liked back... or even in the same way. Not by a long shot. Been there, done that, torched the freakin' T-shirt stand.
I think fear of rejection is very powerful. Perhaps more powerful than we realise. Those with a low self esteem and a lack of hobbies, interests and passions will take a bigger hit.
I know what it's like to let past damage screw up the present. Some of this damage will be with me to some degree probably until the day I die. It will cause me to make mistakes; some mistakes will even be epic but I'm beginning to accept this reality. The path you are on with this person may last. It may not. You may screw it up, he might or even both of you could fail. Hell it may not last and neither of you could be at fault. The point is that you're putting yourself out there and trying. You're living. If it works great. If it doesn't work take the time you need to recover and then get out there and live again. You doing this is an inspiration to all us fellow damaged folks!
You can't be crushed by disappointment, but you can crush yourself by perceiving a disappointment as crushing. Disappointments are a normal part of life, and not a prediction of future luck. Amor fati. [dailystoic.com]
Don't worry..men usually only run if the woman becomes the pursuer, acts needy and desperate, proclaims her undying love for him, buys him little love gifts, and in general takes the role of the male pursuer.
If she moons over him, pleads with him, acts like a groveling love struck person who can't survive on her own, he'll run, sooner or later, to a more independent, interesting woman.
The book "The Rules" is SOO true. Let the man to the pursuing, ask the questions, set the dates, pay for dates, plan them, and never accept a date unless it's asked three days in advance. Otherwise you'd love to, but you have other plans.
Be vague, seem busy. Act like a woman who has places to go and people to see. Never stop dating other people, or have sex with him, unless you are exclusive. Men are quickly bored and if women seem too eager or clingy, they tend to move on.
This works very well, and when I followed it I had to beat men off with a stick. But for me it comes naturally since I PREFER being single and only ever dated to humor my family and seem normal. I didn't chase after them because I didn't care, and of course they were intrigued and clung to me.
This response is so full of dated, sexist nonsense.
@AmyLF Most cis hetero men are the predators, except for men with a high percentage of female traits (we're all on a gender trait spectrum).
I even have enough male in me, as a partial transmale, to be the same way. Even if I have a crush on a woman and she becomes the aggressor and tries to chase me, I back off, and avoid her from then on.
It's a red flag to males when a woman shows that she's heavy in aggressive male traits..signalling that she's likely to be less interested in giving up her career to raise his progeny and dedicate her life to him.
@birdingnut I wouldn't say all males. I have known a few that actually get off on strong women... both literally and figuratively. Yea... had a few really... erm.... shall we say interesting situations in my earlier years?
@AmyLF I said that men high in female traits prefer that women court them. I have a very strong male side, as I'm androgynous, slightly more male, and even with this weak male influence compared to "real" males, I must be the pursuer, if I am attracted to a woman.
@birdingnut Yea, I'm not that keen on dividing everything into male, female. I realize those ideas are out there and a lot of work goes into them. But to me people are people and what they do doesn't necessarily need to be that definitely categorized.