Should we be making plans for "when the shit hits the fan?" Are you prepared to live off the grid, live without the trappings of civilization in a world gone mad? Or do you think life as we know it is going to continue indefinitely?
Depends entirely on what scenario you're imagining: how about a massive coronal ejection that wipes out all electronics, communication systems, etc? Yellowstone caldera blowing its stack that will cover the American midwest in volcanic ash? An uncontrollable pandemic? What are the chances?
Emergency preparedness is a sliding scale thing... the more you become a prepper for any and all disasters, the more resources it takes to be ready. People are spending millions on buying and fitting out missile silos, others just keep a bug-out bag handy.
Then there's preparedness for local disasters, such as the recommendations that the Red Cross publish. It's good advice, and a good place to start, as regional emergencies happen often enough. It's why I'm a ham radio operator. Global disasters? Every few hundred thousand to millions of years between them... But some of them are overdue, such as the Yellowstone caldera...
I tuck all that stuff in a compartment in my brain labeled "Open in case of emergency". Till then, I sleep like a baby.
I just posed the question to one of my housemates. If the shit hits the fan I think we can do what we can to survive but ultimately we're all fucked.
Just move in with me.
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We MUST belief that we can stop the malevolent union of nationalistic ethnocentrism, evangelical Christianity, the culture of greed and reactionary ideology -- and do everything we can to stop it. I have reached the latter years of my life, but Ai shudder to think of what life would be like for my daughters and grandchildren if we -- ALL of the American people do not act to stop it. We owe it to our progeny and to our ongoing, living dream of democracy in our nation to CRUSH this damnable malignancy!!
If it all goes that bad, I see no reason to stick around. Seriously. I hope though, that we will evolve emotionally, and that we will move past our baser instincts and become something bigger and better that can make its way past this dystopia currently riding in the sidecar of our wild ride.
My youngest son fully believes in the Zombie Apocalypse (he has Aspergers and is prone to weird thinking) and has had a plan for years.
All these violent movies and media is preparing us for much worst to come. US will be ground zero, yet I won't be the end of the world.
South of the equator has 10per percent of the world's population and even less weapons. Then only 5percent of the world's pollution. No sense in building up North, where there are too many psychopaths bullies who will steal all my food supply and shelter.
I have lived through some great times, and I have lived through some very hard times. I have had to live off the grid in my past, and it's a hard life when done long term. I hope to heck I don't ever HAVE to do it again.
I'm aware that at any given moment life can take a turn, (Fire/ flood/ hurricane/ tornado/ earthquake/ illness/ etc.) and a person can go suddenly from being on top, to being on the bottom.
I try to plan ahead and prepare myself for these kinds of things, in case of the event of those kinds of things happening to me again.
Life, as we know it now, is absolutely going to continue "indefinitely". (I say that tongue in cheek, as you kind of set yourself up for some ribbing by stating the obvious )
Whether or not it will come down to having to live off the grid, I hope not.... but take a look at Puerto Rico!
Off the grid: Two commodities that will be missed the most when the System fails; milk and toilet paper.
I read an article a few years ago about how many trees are flushed daily and an alternative. I started using the alternative then. I keep TP on hand for visitors, and haven't had to buy TP in a while. And milk, don't drink it myself, when I need milk for a recipe i have powdered. Yes, AC and heat I cannnot live without. -8 in Omaha at present. I spent a long weekend in July w/o AC, nearly ended up with heat stroke.
@HippieChick58 What's that TP alternative? Rags?
Cloth. I have 6 inch squares of diaper cloth and flannel. Use once, toss in a basket and launder when the basket gets full or I'm almost out of cloths. I no longer remember how many I have, I have enough for two to three weeks, and they get washed with the towels.
I do not think life as we know it will not continue indefinitely.Civilization will reach a point where drastic changes will be made out of necessity not out of choice .The human race is to greedy and selfish to voluntarily change .Its human nature to care more about the present than the future .There is no profit to be made in less people ,less deforestion ,less depletion of natural resources ,or less of anything
Put my head between my legs and kiss my ass goodbye...so no plans...I would not like to here if such thing was to happen...
we wouldn't be here long
It is in my nightmares a world war will break out after the dollar crashes.
It has not possible for me to build an eco village here in North America after three attempts. Building one in Bolivia or I would be a fool not to be prepared.
Life on Earth will continue indefinitley until our Sun dies. However, "when the shit hits the fan" will we be able to live as an advanced civilization? Well, that depends on what you mean by shit. Will a nuclear war cause a catastropic event? Will a global pandemic kill most of the earth's animal population including humans? Will a meteor cause a catastrophic event that shuts down photosynthesis? All of these can create unbearable situations for humans. Just look at Puerto Rico where all the necessities of life have been destroyed. A civilzation is defined as the society, culture, and a way of life in a particular area. It is a process where a society has reached social development and organization. Therefore, "when the shit hits the fan" in any of these scenarios, civilization as we know it will not continue, we will have to adapt to a new way of life.
Should we be making plans? Unless you have a crystal ball, it will be hard to plan for any of the mentioned and not mentioned catastropic events. Live, laugh, and love your life.
My ex was someone obsessed with this thought.. I simply prepare for the future in terms of trying to save, having life insurance etc.. life ends everyday for someone in the world. So we should all be prepared for it all to end at any time. I was also raised in a rural village in Zimbabwe and didn't even own a pair of shoes for the first 4 years of my life, so going back to a life we live off the land isn't scary to me. Millions of people already live like that everyday in our world.
be positive coz we [ the urban west ]couldn't survive in any other scenario
I actually have those skills, though I’m not a farmer. I could loose the internet and be absolutely fine.
Yes people in Omaha ought to learn from the Ft Calhoun meltdown 2011 to move farther away from nuke winds. ..I am considering the free land in Marne Iowa for my return and romance with my native roots 843 926 1750 @AtheistVet my twitters Larry.H.Carter.Center@gmail.com
Only if you wear your tinfoil hat the whole time you are preparing (you don't want the govment to know what you are doing!).