Bear in mind that all I said was, "...engage in a civil discussion." Nowhere in my post did I say anything like arguing with a brick wall over religion. The Don't-preach-to-me-or-tell-me-what-to-do knee jerk reaction is...palpable, in this thread. Pretty eye-opening.

@recluse I didn't mean confrontational either. I really only hang out with folks who are nonbelievers. Even in the band, only our bass player is a believer and a conservative, so we stay away from politics and religion when he is around. Good bass players are hard to find. We do like him. He is not a bad guy. ☺

@Bendog I think so in hot weather. When I grew cucumbers they tended to go round in a circle which was baffling -so not a great expert in veg growing only do it when the mood takes me, as the veg shop is just 5 minutes walk away.

@Bendog I grow my own herbs if that counts, but they are more like weeds really and don't need all that attention I also get wild strawberries growing they are amazing tiny bursts of amazing flavour. But mostly I grow flowers.