I find it difficult to remain friends with someone who is intellectually dishonest. I have a buddy who revealed , among other things, that he thinks all scientists/archaeologists should "throw away" dinosaur bones that they find, because the bones "are distractions" and "don't have anything to do with the bible".
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Feel free to reply to any comment by clicking the "Reply" button.I think sad that we dig up anything from the past in name of research and the quest and for health knowledge this happen in the future so gross
Cristinasamana
Level 4
July 22, 2018
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How is this behavior intellectually dishonest? Sounds more like the admissions of a true believer to me!
p-nullifidian
Level 8
July 22, 2018
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Well, a true believer=intellectual dishonesty, so both.
@DustinFL I disagree. Mistaken beliefs and erroneous reasoning are not, in and of themselves, dishonest. If, on the other hand, your friend is in possession of information that would adversely affect his beliefs, and then fails to apply it as it would not serve his purpose, this would be dishonest. Not knowing your friend, and what facts or information he may, or may not, possess, I cannot say ... can you?
@pnfullifidian in order for a person to hold religious beliefs, one must willingly disregard reason and assume that the religious claims are true. There may be honest aspects, such as honestly wanting beliefs to be true, and honestly searching for better reasons to believe them. But it's always intellectually dishonest. Case in hand:
My friend "Joe", in order to hold onto his irrational belief, makes a statement that elements of our reality (bones) must be destroyed and ignored. It is dishonest to say that the "truth of reality" (god) requires omission of reality(bones).
He's essentially saying "my claim is true, and any evidence against it must be destroyed, so that only evidence supporting me will remain." that is pure intellectual dishonesty.
That person sounds crazy. Or actually religious. If a person says bones from the past should be discarded to keep people believing in the phallacy of religion you should distance yourself from that person. Tell him the bones are real and show the existance of animals millions of years before people and there is no evidence of the bible. Tell him he has is it backwards and you can't associate with someone who is so delusional.
AlanRathburn
Level 5
July 21, 2018
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In all honesty I don't think I could be friends with someone like that. Not because they are religious but because they are so close minded.
Marico93
Level 2
July 21, 2018
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exactly. I still have many religious friends. Although, they are all probably just one conversation away from revealing something nutty that supports their irrational beliefs.
He is a little bit right ..and a little bit wrong..
Dinosaur fossil bones are not a Distraction..they are Clarity..
He is correct that they do not have anything to do with the bible..because fossils are real and tangible evidence of both evolution and a clear indication of the the true age of the planet. Evidence which clearly negates Christianity's numorous assertions to the contrary i.e the Bible..which is evidence of nothing.
Hitchens
Level 8
July 21, 2018
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I know some intellectually dishonest that are not christians... if your beef is with the christians and the bible be honest, do not disguise your beef.
GipsyOfNewSpain
Level 9
July 21, 2018
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I'm fair with my beef, I spread it around. There have been non religious ridiculous truth claims that have me reevaluating a friendship.
Holy shit ...
evergreen
Level 8
July 21, 2018
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Holy fossilized shit!
Okay.
There are whole religious thoughts and ideas dedicated to spreading the myth that Satan created the dinosaur bones and placed them in the ground to help divide the true believers from the fakes....
I always thought that if that were actually the case, then I want to work in Satan's design and production facility. I could create some totally awesome dinosaurs....
SkotlandSkye
Level 8
July 21, 2018
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If that was the casa Satan must have been the busiest dude in town...since every so often the archaeologists discover more bones; the most recent ones were found -again- in South America...and they say this "dog" is the oldest ever
Having always rather fancied the idea of being an autocratic medieval monarch (I'm not quite sure how to balance this with my far-left, vehemently anti-monarchist beliefs, but bear with me) I'd love to have a friend such as that. My very own fool - hours of entertainment!
Jnei
Level 8
July 21, 2018
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Pick any of your current friends... get them real high. Enjoy. Repeat. Switch roles. Enjoy. Repeat.
Jnei:
@GipsyOfNewSpain Few things are quite so much fun as being the only person who isn't high among a group of friends who are shit-faced.
@Jnei I did it all the time... with alcohol... once the drinking started... I didn't touched it. I still do it. The Evil Pleasure of Saying No and turning down other's Pleasure is pretty Funny Morbid.
I wouldn't necessarily say that's intellectually dishonest, but it's dumb. It would be easier not to look for the bones in the first place than to look for them and throw them away. In a sense they are already "thrown away". At least he realises that his Bible has no way of accounting for them, and that's a start.
Gareth
Level 7
July 21, 2018
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