At onlyduh, i'm saying it shouldn't be as acceptable as it is now, and it could be reduced immensely because i don't believe that its as a powerful biological imperative as you think it is. Your words above. For what it is worth, i'm outraged by this behavior. Saying something shouldn't be acceptable is a hard sell when all the behavior has occurred, is occurring and, if history is any teacher, will continue to occur. How do you propose to reduce it? With all due respect, i must disagree that the biological imperative is not so powerful. When a male lion comes across a female with new cubs she is breastfeeding, he will kill the cubs for a number of reasons. The cubs are not his. Once dead, they no longer suckle and the female will become fertile again and receptive to the new dominant male who killed her cubs. He will now mate with her now passing on his genes. When any homeo sapiens tribe conquers another, the new dominant tribal males kill the vanquished males and children and married women as a rule keeping the virgins for themselves. This is even exquisitely spelled out in the old testament with regard to moses. Moses even wrote that his god was well pleased with his behavior. Do you think that moses could have been persuaded that his behavior was somehow incorrect or immoral? Good luck with that. Do you think harvey weinstein and donald trump think their attitudes toward women is not ok? I repeat. Please tell me how you think this behavior could be reduced"immensely"

at onlyduh, I won't enter into an argument with you, although I believe you gloss over what I posted. Read it closely again. The evidence is crushingly obvious, IMO, and the opinion of many. How do you explain the two kahns. It happened. Period!

Yes. Not all men are like that. Of course you know men who don't do that. So do I, but it doesn't erase what history has shown. Tell your opinion to the German women, native American women and all the black slaves.

Thank you for sharing, and I'm so sorry this happened to you and happens to women all the time, but I'm a little surprised by your statement that there shouldn't be so many stories. In reality, there are millions upon millions of these stories across history. As a doctor, a scientist and an audodidact in history, anthropology, biology, evolution and more, I have to say that this male dominance is par for the course, and that the lot of women and the female of many species is similar. You can read the bible where Moses was a mass rapist and he wrote god was well pleased after his tribe defeated the Amalakites and other tribes and the young virgins were always taken and given to the men and Moses took his share. Ghenghis and Kubla Kahn had hundreds of " wives" and it is known that thousands upon thousands of people have their genes. Unfortunately, it appears the historical lot of women was sexual assault and rape. The Vikings weren't simply patting women on the head when they conquered another people. Sally Hemings was 14 years old when Thomas Jefferson began his assault of her. Can anyone believe this was consensual on her part? It goes deeper. Homeo sapiens conquered all other human species such as Neanderthals by being the stronger and or more ruthless predator. The proof is that we are the only one left: homeo sapiens. And there is a pecking order among the males. Some more ruthless, than others. We have all met them. Trump is an example. I went to a private college replete with fraternities, and met many of these "type A" entitled men. Now that homeo sapiens is the only species left, we are left with the top dog type A predators fighting it out over resources and their predator genes fighting over the females. Lions do this. The most dominant males will kill the other males and kill the offspring of other males so the females will become receptive to mating with them.

In WW2 the Russian and American soldiers were notorious for raping the German women left unprotected at the end of the war. American soldiers did this in Viet Nam.

No witch hunt, but many men are like this My point? IMO, this is largely biological. In the genes. I don't have an answer for it, except for strong laws and a lot of good men to enforce those laws. I'm sure this will get some reaction.

Thank you for sharing. We, as men, don't often hear or acknowledge these types of stories. We tend to think of them as isolated events and push them from our minds. I think we need to have this discussion. We need to recognize that this happens often and we need to become part of the solution.

I'm sorry to hear such, based on my previous interactions with you, you appear to be a kind hearted person and didn't mind conversing with me even though I'm a conservative introvert. I agree there are too many examples of what you described above. As odd as this may sound, I too went through a similar experience many years ago with a female coworker who was the top boss at my place of employment, but I'm not going into details on that on any social media site. I however applaud your courage in sharing those stories on here. Do take care in the meantime.

Too many stories... I'm not sharing any of mine, but I believe confident strong women are seen as trophies at times.

It never stops. I have 100+ stories and even just last week was told by a man that he would invest in my company IF we “were involved”. I’m 51 years old and this shit has been happening since I was a teenager. I’ve come to the conclusion that this is never going to stop or get better.

Have told my stories here previously but have a few of my own - family and work related. I was first molested by my male cousin before puberty. My parents insisted I made it up and to this day deny it ever happened. One of my early bosses used to pat me on the butt even though I was married and thought of me as a daughter. During my sales management career I worked with my Drake Bakeries drivers all the time on delivery trucks with managable situations but one of my cohort workers, depot manager used to be sexually suggestive with me one too many times as a divorcee so I reported him. I got fired for not cooperating with fellow employees. That was 25 years ago. Nothing I could do at the time except get another job. Times have changed. Glad you fought back duh.

sorry to read that.

I hope you didnt hurt your Nikon when you slammed the asshole with it.