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I know this might seem like a odd question for this community, but do you pray and if so what is prayer to you? I do, but not to a god or deity. For me prayer is pensive, a quiet moment of contemplation when I just let me mind drift. I think about everything and nothing and often nothing at all. I usually have these moments when I’m out in nature; sitting in my garden or up on the South Downs near where I live. One of my favourite spots is up on Firle Beacon, from the top I can watch the ferries going in and out of Newhaven Harbour, the Hang-gliders and Parasenders riding the thermals above Mount Harry, the Skylarks darting about and Buzzards circling overhead. I quite happily sit there for some time just watching and listening and being in the moment. Another is the beach at Cuckmere Haven at the foot of the famous Seven Sisters chalk cliffs. There is something about the sea that just draws me. I’ve always lived on or near the coast. I hate being landlocked and away from it. I worked in a bush camp in Kwa-Zulu Natal, South Africa for a couple of months a few years ago. There was a kopje behind the camp, affectionately known as The Pimple. I’d often get up before sunrise, get a flask of coffee and some rusks, walk up to the top and sit waiting for the sun to come up. The peace and tranquillity were wonderful. I’d sit there feeling the heat of the sun as it rose looking down on the bush veld below with Tugela River winding its way from the Drakensburg Mountains towards the Indian Ocean. I would the day-time Bush dwellers start their day; Giraffe, Wildebeest, Warthog, Ostrich, Zebra, Nyala, Kudu, Impala and Baboons. From where I sat all I could see of the Giraffes was their heads moving around above the tops of trees like periscopes. These are my prayerful moments. Moment of clarity and peaceful, uninterrupted thought.
"Here's another excerpt from my 'Pilgrim Musings':

On the whys and wherefores

Sitting on the ..." – I mention an important wilderness prayer moment that was to change my life in this post

Keymaiden 6 Aug 6
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Well, I talk to myself a lot. Does that count?

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I pray for a death worthy of being remembered in song in bars and around campfires for generations. Odin I hope you are listening.

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I usually have a banana with my breakfast. If I called that 'praying' then I would pray most mornings. Private languages serve no purpose in public discourse.

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Don't know if what I do is prayer. It may be more like quiet reflection/meditation. But I do still call it prayer. Can't get past my indoctrination.

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I've been known to pray to football gods (American ones).

godef Level 7 Aug 6, 2018
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There are two kinds of prayer -- one that asks for favors or grace or particular outcomes, and one that represents a meditative surrendering of ones attachments to ... for lack of a better term ... "that which is". This could take the form of an interventionist god or could be entirely non-personified in nature.

So ... what you're describing, while I would disagree that "prayerful" is maybe the best label .. is a form of mediation and surrender and lack of resistance. And it has value. And it has things in common with meditative prayer ("not my will, but Thine, be done" ).

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As an agnostic, I may not worship a deity, but I don't rule out the existence of a power and intelligence greater then my own. I don't think any such entities would be truly comprehensible to us, but that doesn't mean we aren't comprehensible to them. They may or may not be able or willing to help, but in those moments that there is nothing else I can do to affect the outcome I will petition these possibly nonexistent beings for their aid. If that is the only tool left in my box, I'll give it a shot.

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I don’t believe there is anything to hear a prayer. I do like prayer flags though. A physical expression of well wishes made DIY and they are cute.
I also have been known to practice positive affirmations. Sometimes we get bogged down with negative self talk in our heads. So repeating the positive that I am or aspire to be helps drown out the negative thoughts. Like a mantra

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I pray every single day. Sometimes multiple times. Never in an outward or showy way. It’s not meant for anyone but me. I’m not into big outward displays and especially if I am in public, I don’t want to disrupt anyone else.

I was with a fellow agnostic member yesterday and specifically prayed three times and I’m pretty sure he never knew or noticed.

..and I'm pretty sure nothing else did either. 🙂

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I have no prayers..I might have wishes, hopes, dreams, aspirations to muse and ponder over..
But Prayer.. No..I leave that to the great herds of true believers..who plead to deaf heaven to cut them a break..or give them direction..

@Keymaiden

Noted.

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What you are saying sounds like a form of meditation. I am trying to integrate meditation in my life. To me this is the opposite of praying to some invisible sky thing. It is interconnecting with my own mind.

@Keymaiden Meditation is not clearing your mind or mindful thinking. It is allowing your mind to do whatever it wants until you reach moments of quietness and stillness...thoughts still come and go throughout the meditation process, but as you do it more and more, the moments of silence and self-reflection come more readily. I have practiced Transcendental Meditation for nearly 40 years now. I think these moments of sitting quietly can be called whatever...in this busy world of ours, they serve to remind us of all that makes us happy. Nice post.

@thinktwice I am learning a particular technique where one imagines certain situations which allows the person to have more control.

@JackPedigo Interesting. TM is about letting go of control. Think of it like a TV that is on, but with no sound and no light...it is still going on but you are not aware in the normal way. I find it very freeing and relaxing and I am able to control my thoughts and emotions all day when I am awake.Everyone has to find what works for them.

@thinktwice A former partner got into TM. She paid to get a mantra and worked at it for quite a while. Unfortunately, she was still not able to control her drinking.

@JackPedigo You do pay for the "course"...the philosophy is that because we are westernized, we do not value anything that is "free"...I wish I had learned from the Maharishi Mahesh Yogi himself...I don't think it was meant to control anything, but the more you do, the more you want to improve on all aspects of your life, like food, drink, etc. I am sorry that she was not able to reach that point. Hope she finds something that will bring her peace.

@thinktwice I checked out a book from our super library "Break the Habit of Being Yourself". The 3rd section is about meditation and various levels. One can read the instructions for free or pay a small amount to get them downloaded. The meditation sessions can last up to an hour. The author is a r. Joe Dispenza and he has a sight under his name. I am usually skeptical of such things but I do believe in meditation and am willing to give this a try.

@JackPedigo Thanks! I have a book on the scientific results of meditation...stress kills and meditation helps lower stress as well as improves overall health...I am also skeptical, but I am living proof that stress ages

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