I might be stupid but if my partner who claims to love me more than she's ever loved anyone before forgets both my birthday and our engagement anniversary but remembers the funeral date of someone she loved, a man she cared for as a care worker that passed away. And then asked to go to visit his grave on our anniversary date. Does that mean my relationship is a farce? I haven't been so gutted in a very long time.
Discuss it. It sounds like she comes ftom a place that does not celebrate adult birthdays, which is rather common. I never celebrated an engagement anniversary, an intent to commit at some point. I've celebrated the actual commitment if or when it happened.
If such things "gut you" and render an "entire relationship a farce", you might want to reconsider being in one, or at least this iteration of one.
Have a straight forward conversation with her. Tell her you are hurt.
I'm afraid to do this in case it goes south. But deep down i know its what i must do.
Not necessarily. You need to talk to her about it, tell her how you feel, and ask for what you want. Based on how that goes, you may decide to make a different choice about getting married. Good luck!
Ouch! I can remember my deceased grandmother's birthday, but hell if I know what day Thanksgiving's on from one year to the next. Might be something similar with your partner. Don't think your relationship's a farce or that she's necessarily being dismissive. For whatever reason that important date just failed to sink in. As someone who's frequently guilty of the same, I apologize on her behalf.
Sounds more like you are hurt and depressed than stupid. You know what you have to do but don't know how to do it so it won't cause a scene. Seems like you are a "peace at all costs" kind of person. I used to be that way. Still have to work on confrontation, but try to look at it as communication.
My suggestion is: be a cowboy, and cut it off at the pass! When you know something is happening soon, like your birthday or an anniversary, don't wait for her to remember. Suggest something to do. Like, "I just remembered, we have an anniversary coming up in a couple of weeks, how about if we go on that riverboat cruise we talked about?" Or, for your birthday, you could suggest a new restaurant.
If this friend's death was hard on her, you could break the ice by saying something like, "I know you had a rough time this week because of the anniversary of your friend's death, and I didn't want to ask you to celebrate, so how about if we plan something for next week instead? That way, You're letting her know that you care, reminding her that she missed something of yours, and asking for a chance to make it up?
Hope this helps
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The biggest problem I see is that you are afraid to talk to her about it. Her wanting to visit a dead guy on your anniversary is bad enough, but the fact that you feel you can't even remind her that it is your anniversary and that you had planned something else is an even bigger problem.
Death is always more impactful than new love. Why? Because deaths are often sudden, quick loss, extremely painful.
And, the expectations involved in relationship are about years.
Be careful what you think is important. Too often it is not. And you will wreck the best parts insisting on the little bits.
Exactly this! ^
Death is a sudden and irreversible status. It’s extremely traumatic to the people left behind who cared for the deceased. So it doesn’t surprise me that the anniversary date is not one your partner forgets.
But not remembering birthdays or anniversaries doesn’t mean they don’t love you more than any one they’ve ever loved before.
My mother, for example, cannot remember her kids birthdays for the life of her. She can remember the dates, but in the swing of day to day life? All of my siblings (and my) birthdays are close to holidays, and inevitably she remembers after the holiday not our birthday. It’s not a matter of not loving it’s just a matter of not using those days as landmarks or measures of their love for you.
Anniversaries are hard for me too. I might love someone today, but the day we started, I probably didn’t. And that anniversary date of our first date or what-have-you feels completely arbitrary and not symbolic of our relationship. If having reminders doesn’t work, maybe consider seeing what they find the most romantic part of your relationship and see if there’s a way to celebrate that as well. It might just stick in their mental calendar if that event is more closely tied to their love for you.
I agree with the other comments that you need to talk about it.
But I would like to touch on the fact that relationships are give and take.
I was with a guy who always tucked in his shirt and I preferred it untucked. He made that accommodation for me.
He liked the shower to be cleaned differently and I made that accommodation at my house for him.
There are things I didn’t necessarily make accommodations for like I still like couple photos even though he doesn’t like pictures.
He doesn’t make accommodations for everything that I like.
But like if something means a lot to your partner and they communicate that need you should make an attempt to accommodate it. Birthdays I think count as not being too much trouble. Maybe if you were requiring a huge party with a DJ that might be asking too much. But low key celebration seems reasonable.
Have the conversation on what is reasonable for both of you to ask one another. What does a life with each other look like? Are both of your needs fulfilled? If your expectations are different then it may be time to move on.
You won’t know until you communicate with her about this. Give her the benefit of a doubt going into the conversation. Don’t be confrontational right out of the gate.
She may love you but not care about anniversaries. I held my mother’s hand as she passed away, it was a visceral experience I will never forget.
Your feelings are valid and she should care that she hurt you. If she cares that she hurt you and doesn’t want to do it again then she loves you.
If she says something to the effect of “how dare you say such a thing” then she is full of sh@t.
IMHO
I was in a very similar situation. My instincts said that the relationship was a farce and that her emotions weren't real. She also didn't remember my birthday or our anniversary date. When I discussed it with her she denied it and reaffirmed that her love for me was very real and that she was offended and upset that I could even think that way. I decided to believe her over my own instincts. We're divorced now because she eventually admitted that she didn't love me.
I think that you need to be having these conversations with her and not us. Good luck.
Might want to tell her what you're telling us - a group of strangers ...
I'm just afraid and its easier to talk anonymously to test the water before I commit to a big talk. I don't want to risk messing it up in case i'm wrong. I do love her dearly.
@Nardi whatever happens between you two in the future, recognize now; that you feeling too uncomfortable to have an open discussion with your partner about your feelings is a major problem currently, and a red flag for future relationships.
Good grief, you're still there? I'd say you need to be on your own for a while to understand why you might deserve better. Being alone is far better than being lonely within a relationship. Good luck.
I wouldn’t place a lot of stock in your worry over where YOUR love is? I have 5 children and I remember their birthdays except with 2 of them I get their dates mixed-up, even when I am certain I have it correct (each year)! I will have to look up the year they were born! I sometimes...will call one of them by another one’s name! And, I have been know to go down the list, calling out the name of one of them that I am trying to speak to! Do I love anyone of them, less...not on your life! They mean more than anything in this world to me, except maybe their offsprings! I guess, I need a professional to figure out why this happens in my brain...but, I do know that it is a brain thing! So relax, you are loved! The details are blurry! Lol
Believe her deeds not her words! My opinion is that she's using you can forget the past... I don't think she love you but it need to communicate first, before take any decision.
Sorry if I was so direct, I know it hurt, but I could remember every minute of the life of my lover..
Have the conversation with her first, but honestly, after reading some of the details you've given in the comments, I think it might be time to hand her her walking papers.
I am terrible about dates. It doesn't mean I don't care. It just means that the day to day affection means more to me.
Exactly! I remember very few dates and only then because my sisters would disown me for missing their birthdays. Other than that, I can tell you whether or not it happens to be Tuesday...
Some people are not into any kind of dates...I don't celebrate or remember dates of anything. I buy gifts and give them any time during the year as it seems appropriate....no reason needed...certain dates do stand out, and I have no idea why...perhaps she is just unaware...talk to her and help her set up a calendar or something. Fortunately, my current partner is the same way...we do remind each other of such things as our anniversary but it is still no big deal to us. I just remember I got married in winter....
...sounds LIKE me!
Yes. Your relationship is a farce. Go get another woman.
Now, how easy is that...you can’t just go out and buy another one? Lol
@Freedompath
That's true, so I just smile and say Hi. That usually works.