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As atheists how many of us have set atheistic goals to be accomplished by a certain time ? Is continuing to explain the truth from an atheists standpoint via books debates social media etc. will accomplish it?considering that religion is such an entrenched social stigma.

Greenheart 7 Aug 28
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Sounds like a declaration of Truth is on the way to yet another puritanical form! Just sayin’!

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I don't feel an ongoing need to explain myself or "convert" people to atheism. sometimes i feel a need to correct misapprehensions, either about atheism and atheists in general or about myself as an atheist. often i feel the need to act politically to combat the erosion of the wall between church and state. i don't have atheistic goals. i have human goals. this human happens to be an atheist.

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My only "goal" is educate my children about how religion holds humanity back from reaching its potential, and give them the intellectual strength and tools theyll need as a foil to fight off those who would try to indoctrinate them or cause them to doubt themselves.

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I have no atheist goals. I make no New Years resolutions. Other than being left the fuck alone I try to avoid the general bullshit of life. Personal reality is not dictated. You create it and my reality is not in competition with anything or anyone.

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There is no atheist agenda.

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I think the real question is how do we as a society and a species take morality and ethics away from religion and zealots? Atheism as a individual choice is fine. But the fact is to enact real change on a large scale level you need to deal with human variation and human nature. Humans are not by and large rational creatures. This is why we need governments and constructs to reign in our impulses. It is fine to be the person in the woods alone and happy there. But the larger world of humanity wants community and a greater sense of purpose. I think the Universal Declaration of Human Rights is a good place to start and if the United States ratified it as a constitutional amendment applying to all citizens as a start that would be great. Pride in a larger cause is not an intrinsically bad thing but when as it seems to me to be in America it is all about instant gratification and the individual or the small group above the whole then it is recipe for collapse. And as much as many people seem to think such anarchy would be wonderful I disagree.

Quarm Level 6 Aug 29, 2018
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What exactly are atheistic goals? Aren't goals the same regardless of whatever ideology/theology you believe?
Do christians/muslims have different goals than sharing life with someone and being a good person?

Individuals yes have similar goals, But as a group the value of religion for many is in the idea that they are right and you or me are wrong and even worse we are less then them. So when the shit hits the fan we are expendable or even worse the enemy. The challenge has always been for those like us (I think) is we do not want to influence the larger world so much as find our own happiness. Which makes us easy targets for those who embrace mindless group think. We stand out like sore thumbs.

@Quarm meh. I don't worry about groupthink in anything. I have always been a bit less than conventional in many ways not just as an atheist. Religiously they can't even agree what to stand together on and I would challenge all of them to prove they were better people.
If I felt I was being persecuted unfairly and felt threatened I would respond accordingly. Chances are even better I could easily find myself a safe haven, a way to get there and a plan to make it permanent.

Also group goals are silly...unless it is a team sport or work. I am fine being on my own socially and politically because at our core we all are individuals with unique requirements

@Quarm I would suggest here that you have not studied religious thinking and are referring to a small number of Christian and Islamic subsets of the Abrahamic tradition. Zealots are prominent in all areas of life, including sport, politics and dietary regimes. If you object to people not thinking like you it might be worth considering starting your own cult of something.

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Why are you trying to turn atheism into a religion?

godef Level 7 Aug 29, 2018

My thoughts exactly! Which is why I've never supported the idea of an atheist "church". What's the point? Be an atheist, do your own thing, have your own (non)beliefs, and go on with life.

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No atheistic goals here (whatever they are), just living my life, minding my own business.

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Did I miss something here? Is there some "atheistic goal" that I have to strive towards, the attainment of which will result in my certification as a bona fide agnostic/atheist?

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I have no atheist goals. I just live my authentic life and leave others alone. That being said, I do speak out about the radical evangelistic goal of making America into a theocracy, but, I think anyone who has a brain should do that regardless of their religion or lack of religion. If someone attempts to convert me, I say "no thanks" . I'm not sure if that could be considered a goal. That's all I've got.

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I'm not sure what an atheistic goal is all I have to do is not be religious and I pretty much have finished my to do list as an atheist

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What would an athiest goal even be? I’m honestly perplexed by this notion. Examples?

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Wait. We're supposed to have atheistic goals????
I never got the memo.

must of fallen out your welcome basket

@weeman Wait! There was a "welcome basket"?????
WTF??!!

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