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I think it's ironic that religious voters actually back policies that are a mix of Social Darwinism and Randian (Ayn Rand) ideals. I've often wondered how they can deal with the cognitive dissonance that creates given the social order depicted among the disciples of Christ. They disciples shared in all things and gave their worldly goods to the group. Some other followers were even killed by god for holding back from the collective.

If I boil down the platform and policies it is all about survival of the fittest and the supremacy of individual rights. There are no collective rights, only the rights of the individual. Anything that imposes restrictions on those individual rights, even if it makes for a better society, are a restriction of freedom. The only time I see collective rights being expressed is if is not in alignment with theocratic beliefs on sex, child bearing, marriage, gender roles, or any other religiously related precept.

Hence in this worldview no one is entitled to healthcare, social security/other retirement schemes, control of their bodies, clean air/water, etc. Certain jobs are reserved for men such as leadership roles. Unless you are a woman who tows the line and preaches the same gender roles your fellow women. In this view, the value of human beings is reduced to how big their wallets are. If you are poor, you are not valuable and it is your own doing that makes you poor and unfavored by god. If you are rich, it is the same, it was your own doing (even if you inherited the money), and you are favored by god. Therefore we should not care or worry about anyone's plight. That is their tough luck/divine providence and they deserve their fate.

That is how it appears to me fro the outside looking in.

What am I missing?

SteveB 7 Jan 20
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Unfortunately, I believe your question is a true reflection of the natural world view. It is a basic tenet of evolution. Nature doesn't care for one paltry species and if that species is invasive, like us, eventually it will be too bad for us and others. We are now in the era of the Anthropocene and will be remembered for the sixth great extinction of species. All that is important for any life form is having enough resources to survive and procreate. When the resources get in short supply competition starts. We humans are no different from that basic drive. We think our intelligence is reflected in our technology which will allow us to overcome the basic rules. In the end our intelligence will fail us because it pits us against mother nature and instead of working with her and conforming to her rules. We will be the losers, not her.

It is a paternalistic world because men are stronger and can force their needs on the weaker especially women and children. It is up to the weaker groups to fight smarter.

I partially agree many of the poor are in that position due to their own making. They fall prey to absurdities presented by the strong and powerful. In the American Civil war it was the poor farmers that fell victim to the plantation owners spin about it being a "states Rights" issue (it was about slavery, period). the wealthy seldom fought but the poor died in droves. Trickle down economics is the modern version which too many poorly educated fall victim. Of course, the biggest absurdity is religion and again, the rich and powerful use it to manipulate others.

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I've always found that very funny too.

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Cognitive dissonance is key to their belief systems. If they can believe in their perverted interpretation of christianity then they can also believe that letting the poor suffer is better than feeding them.

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If I end up commenting a lot, this will become redundant, but we aren't properly educated in epistemology. People are very confused about why they believe what they believe, and seldom have taken the time to justify it all. They'll adopt ideas to the extent that they are useful to what they currently believe, which is the backward way to do this. We need to start from scratch and start making it popular to think about what you believe and work avidly to avoid contradictions and abide by intuitive principles of reason.

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Nothing. Evangelical true believers simply refuse to acknowledge any inconsistencies or contradictions.

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Not familiar with this church Disciples of Christ. How are they different from Evangelists?

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I don't think they notice the cognitive dissonance. I think you have to be self aware to notice cognitive dissonance, and I don't think they have that quality.

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