What I do know about #3 , which isn't much, are that I've realized who many of the enablers of that nonsense in Israel are. And they are certainly not all religious extremists.not by any stretch. Some are just run of the mill stupid taxpayers.

@twill and some aren't stupid and you sure do like to generalize. the history bit... that's still out there to be learned. if you're interested enough to comment you could find the interest to learn it.

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@genessa What's to know? Off the top of my head: The world created the Israeli state in 1948 or so.
Like many good things, it has taken on a new life and become a land grab. What am I missing here?
Just telling me I'm wrong, sure d does not make you right. Thanks for nothing tho!

@twill you want me to give you, here, the history of israel from the turn of the 19th/20th century through the present, and thanks for nothing because i suggested you look it up? your answer shows you know zip. but i will tell you a tiny part of it. the british mandate set aside a bit of land, slightly larger than israel is now, for the jews, and a HUGE bit of land, mostly comprised of what had previously been transjordan, for the palestinians. teeny and huge. the palestinians complained so the mandate took a sliver from then-israel and added it to transjordan, which was renamed jordan. transjordan already had a population, as did israel, but that mattered little to the british. anyway, israel's population included arabs/palestinians and more and more jews as they arrived. the neighboring arab nations were outraged that jews were coming, and told the palestinians in israel that the jews were planning to murder them. in fact, israel had invited them to stay. those who did are full citizens, and some even serve in the knesset (parliament) to this day (not the same individuals, obviously). the palestinians believed their arab neighbors and fled to jordan, the land set aside for them. the jordanians rejected them. now the palestinians were homeless. so whom should they blame, the jews who said "stay and be israelis"or the jordanians who said "yeah this is supposed to be your land too but stay out anyway"? that's a SLIVER of the history you apparently do not know. if you don't want to know more, that's your business, but then don't make judgments based on what you don't know. if you DO want to know more, the information is available. there is a lot of it. you can find it. it's totally up to you.

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@genessa Thanks genessa

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Thanks "D"...no sense in waiting for perfection, it may never come .Let it rip!