I just had a mind blowing conversation with my fundamental christian mother. We discussed the bible, evolution, the universe, and other light subjects.
She tearfully admitted that she does not believe the bible to be infallible. She said that it was obviously, "too full of man".
She politely asked me to stop because I was, "crumbling the last foundations of her faith".
I informed her that I wasn't attempting to do that, but that I was glad she was willing to talk about it with me.
I never thought this day would come.
She told me that she thought I was very intelligent and thoughtful and that she admired me.
Up until today, I was only described as wayward and sinful.
Oh, happy day!
B-i-b-l-e, basic information before leaving earth
Baseless information perhaps?
basic fantasy brainwashing bullshit before leaving earth
I had a similar experience with my pastor. As I cornered him, he openly admitted that the Bible was mostly mythological!
I was still openly welcomed in my all inclusive church.
I still attend from time to time to help out and distribute plants to the members (mostly Milkweed for their gardens)
I had a garden center for 30 years but we always had signs up warning people that if they were lactose intolerant, then they should avoid the milkweed plants.
That's awesome, I'm really happy that she came around. Unfortunately, I often feel that my parents, especially my mother, treat me like a trophy on the mantle: love to bring people in to brag about me and my accomplishments, but all weapons drawn in a panic the second I speak my mind. I don't know how she expects me to get such an intensive science education and not learn to question things. I remember one specific occasion at dinner where I was sitting quietly and respectfully waiting for the rest of my family to finish their prayer when I look over to see my mother glaring at me the entire time and when they finished, she started ranting at me about how I should be respectful and say the prayer with them. Quite frustrating
If the ones in power would admit to the fallacies and be honest, we could at least have honest debates. Have you listened to christian/ atheist debates? Deconversion gets you your brain back. Praise that some elderly keep brians and can use them. Some just sink into the bubble and cannot.
I see some of the people who wake up to the reality, seem to go through a withdrawal period. Losing the "opiate of the masses" can be quite frightening to a lot of theists. It's just like quitting other drugs.
My Mum is 78 and she went through it a few years ago. She's much happier now. She's told me she appreciates not having to bullshit herself. She loves the power of the truth.
I love my mother to death, however she became a devoted Christian when her mom died.
Today, speaking about anything god or religion is basically a sin"
I have learned not to bring the subject up about my belief or the lack of an it keeps me in check with her.
She likes to set mental traps to see where I'm standing about her god; learned how to recognize them and take another route.
Still, I'm still considered a devil enabler and surely" heading to hell...
I'm so sorry! Is she logical in other areas of life? How old is she?
She is very logical as far as her age allows it (90 years old). We do have intelligent conversations about politics and society at large.
The only big problem is her beliefs; at times they could hinder any communication.
@Luiggi I'm sorry. We never know what's going on in 90=-year-old brains! I'm glad she's satisfied with her beliefs and hope it makes her passing easier. She'll need them soon, rather than later. You're a good son!
Never too late for some people, I guess. Glad you had this experience.
I wish my sister could admit the same. I got her to that point--she said that what the bible says doesn't matter because it was written by man. But yet when I ask her why she believes in the Christian god in particular she fails to give me any good reasons. Like where do you think this notion of the Christian god comes from?
Wow! That’s quite a turn of events it sounds