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Has your Atheism affected your patriotism?

JazznBlues 8 Oct 23
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Hell no

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No. Never will.

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Yes.
I no longer support the multiculturalism which is being promoted by the federal government (Canada), and which has been shown to be a dismal failure in Europe. Integration and assimilation of immigrants is a much better practice.
I make an exception for aboriginal people, who have every right to maintain their culture, because we are the immigrants.

I think your view of immigrants is much too narrow. You, as a Humanist, don't see the common humanity of us all?

I do recognize the immigration problems in Europe. But I attribute those problems to too much xenophobic thinking on both sides, such as what you just expressed and not enough Humanistic thinking.

According to your line of thinking, everyone not aboriginal should assimilate to the aboriginal culture. Are you ready for that?

@dare2dream Explain how promotion of integration and assimilation of immigrants is xenophobic and not Humanistic.

@dare2dream

@PBuck0145: The reason multiculturalism seems to be failing in Europe is because of xenophobia. If both migrants and natives were less xenophobic, multiculturalism would work.

All humans have a right to celebrate their culture. Our human rights go with us where ever we are from.

Humanists see the unity, the commonality of all humans. To put nativism first is divisive and factionalizes us.

@dare2dream
Your statements would be correct were it not for Islam. Islam mandates that it the only correct ideology, religion, and culture. Members of other cultures must be converted, subjugated or executed. This gives Islam an evolutionary advantage over humanistic ideologies. Islam's advantage is enhanced by the tolerance and encouragement of the regressive left.

Multiculturalism, open societies and globalism are elegant philosophical theories, but cannot benefit humanity while the existence of Islam persists.

Think carefully before assuming that these statements are bigoted or xenophobic. Islam is not human. I am objecting to Islam, not to ts followers, who are betrayed, oppressed and enslaved by the ideology. They would be much better off assimilating into a more secular and/or humanitarian culture.

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Patriotism is the virtue of the vicious said Oscar Wilde. Especially in catholic Poland, where we grow up under the shadow of John Paul II, our Great White Father.

Wolk Level 1 Jan 8, 2019
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I don't consider the two to be connected. I spent ten years in the military but have never believed in gods. I do not believe in "blind patriotism" as I call it. I don't want to give any one individual the authority to tell me what I should be doing to be "patriotic". Especially in this day in age when you have a draft dodger as President telling people how to be patriotic and insulting Americans who served.

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Yes. It has helped provided clarity through misconceptions that I had about God and this earthly/artificial space called "America". As a result, I have no feelings now for either. For now I'm simply a universal being....free to travel...with less baggage. Neutral.

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I’ve lived in America nearly half of my life. My atheism is one of the reasons why I refused to become an American citizen for so long. There is no freedom of religion or more importantly from religion in the US.

Where are you originally from?

@Sticks48 Canada ??

@Green_eyes Canada to Houston, now there is a real change in climate.

@Sticks48 long story

@Green_eyes Long drive.

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I'm still a citizen of mother earth

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Used to love my country when I was a kid. Kind of became indifferent when I was 17. Became an atheist when I was 18. The same thought processes that led me to realize the weirdness of nationalism and love for a country is the same one that led me to abandon a belief in god. Being atheist did nothing to affect my patriotism. But why I am an atheist did.

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