@OwlInASack . . . that men displaying their bits is considered rude is stoopid.

Since so many men are doing this, it has to beg the question ," Do the majority of men think women are attracted to dicks?"

And subsequently, "Do women enjoy looking at men's bits, but they don't want to acknowledge their interest?"

We should not conclude that men who do this are wrong, just because a few women don't like it.

@OwlInASack . . . I agree, basically. The described behavior of initial contact was not solicited. If there is a 2nd time after refusal that is harassment. Removal of the proffered organ might be in order.

@OwlInASack There doesn't HAVE to be. But there could be. Some feminists want their cake and be able to eat it, too. Look, I don't hate feminists, and I think the women's rights' movement has done a lot of good for our society, and there's more that can be done. Yet I have personally witnessed feminists discounting opinions solely because a male voiced them. And sure, MOST women won't send out vag pics unsolicited. However, I have yet to see or hear of public condemnation for any woman who had, whereas rants against dick pics are quite common. Heaven help the woman who says she's OK with them.

For the record, I'm not down with women's bodies being violated. But "boundaries"....that's a slippery slope, unless everything is made clear from the get-go. At some companies, you can be fired from looking at someone longer than 5 seconds,and perhaps paying a substantial settlement.

Biology is not to be taken so lightly. It's been around far longer than our society, and we've changed it little. Sexual politics aren't going anywhere, any time soon.

Also, I think the word you wanted was "misconception" (wrong thought), not "misnomer" (wrong name).

@pepperjones Well, I'm suing my mail-man for unsolicited mail, then.

@OwlInASack I'm not trying to create a straw man. And I don't lack empathy. Women still have it rough, in so many areas. I'm not a big fan of our patriarchal legacy.

I classify "kissing" as touching, which for me is a critical thing, like the boundary between "thought" and "action". It may be a while before I have to cross that particular bridge. Even hugging has fallen under this new pallor.

One of my concerns (and only time will tell if I am right) is that it will come to be the case that de facto, consent will be a thing only women can grant. This could be problematic, but we'll see.

The five-second thing is real-look up Netflix's corporate policy. It's not the case where I work, where there are just two female employees, both married, that sort of live in their own private world.

Respect ought to be a two-way street. Women often say: "well, you're a man, you can get away with this shit." Perhaps, but I DON'T. I'm not one of the ruling elite, and it strikes me as unfair I'm held to be part of the problem when I had no part in its creation. It's great that women aren't willing, these days, to accept the status quo, and by and large, I don't run into any significant issues with this. But again (and this is usually the case with only some of the more extreme feminists) I don't buy the argument that women are RIGHT, solely because they've been oppressed. I look at everything on a case-by-case basis.

In some ways, this is an uncomfortable area to explore. Which tells me we OUGHT to.

... Great spew. Thanks.

What? Your knickers don’t drop when you get a dick pic? Lmao

@Marcie1974 LOL, no my knickers never dropped for dick pics.

@Redheadedgammy yeah, mine either

@Marcie1974 @Redheadedgammy Y'all wear knickers?!?

I love when he says “ mum, get your camera “

@Marcie1974 Yup, priceless.