Right wing censorship or the long arm of B'nai B'rith?
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Feel free to reply to any comment by clicking the "Reply" button.Ever wondered why Jehovah's Witness were persecuted by the Nazi's when other Christian denominations were not?
It is because B'nai B'rith bank rolled the Watchtower Society, later renamed the Jehovah's Witness in to existence (proven in court in 1922), this is the reason the Nazi put JWs in to the concentration camps along with Jews gypsies and Homosexuals.
Before WW2 the JWs had been a willing front for the Thule and Vril societies moving about the tax free (religiously exempt) money that helped found the Nazi party, when they became publicly associated with a Jewish owned banking concern B'nai B'rith via Kuhn and Loeb Bank, the Nazi's turned on them and instead made a deal with the LDS to funnel untraceable money out of Germany and in to south America via Utah before and after the USA came in to the war.
LenHazell53
Level 9
Dec 7, 2018
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No i didn't know that. Thanks.
Sorry as a Cultural Jew I m disgusted even though I'm anti-Zionist. This is hate plus and should not be condoned. I am sharing this with my Jewish by Culture group. I'm sure many will see this guy as a sick -f-ck as I do.
sassygirl3869
Level 9
Dec 7, 2018
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How is ?? with a swastica imposed on it to be interpreted as hate?
If Israel and its IDF wish to behave like inhuman nazi thugs in respect of their ongoing genocide of Palestinian people their action associates them with behaviour only previously associated with the swastica. Equally but for the fact that it is not as widely known he could have superimposed an agrarian hoe on the flag. The heavy farmer's hoe was the executioner's tool of choice during the Cambodian Pol Pot cleansing of the country's intellectuals and intelligentsia.
@FrayedBear anything with a swastika is despicable!
@sassygirl3869 And if Israel and it's IDF behaviour is considered to be despicable every one should pretend that it has not happened or use a simple graphic to express their disgust at that behaviour?
I am reminded of the old adage of "if your child will not look both ways to ensure that it is safe to cross the road despite all methods being tried to get that child to change its ways, what are you going to do to prevent your child from not safeguarding itself?" I suggest that you are going to use aversion therapy - like a good thrashing every time the child fails to safeguard its life. Similarly if Israel and the IDF cannot understand why people around the world have been driven to using aversion therapy against them...
@FrayedBear I hate what Israel is doing-I am anti-Zionist. Bibi is a criminal like his buds Trump and Kuschner but anything Nazi should be outlawed.
@sassygirl3869 But you cannot hide or learn from history by pretending that it never happened.
When I look at the numbers killed in WWI & WWII and particularly the civilian deaths I ask where are the monuments to them & the memorials held for them. I also look at the numbers of families who now no longer exist such as my own where I am the last carrying my grandfather's name - a situation caused by WWI. Do the Jewish people really believe that they are garnering support by their continual mewling? It seems that some of their rabbis are no better than some fatwa pronouncing mullahs.
@sassygirl3869 @FrayedBear
This is an ancient and current Hindu symbol, to be found in temples all over the world, it is neither Nazi or Jewish nor despicable it just is, regardless of people's limited sensibilities
Want to ban it?
@LenHazell53 wow scary.
@sassygirl3869 I know, is is very frightening, without context, my posting that might get me banned and vilified too.
However, it may (or may not) have been the case that the chap in this story was simply demonstrating that this symbol can be shown today and given an utterly different meaning simply because the hexagram and the Hakenkreuz have become fixed in out minds today as the star of David and the swastika, when those names actually only stem from the 1890s and the 1930's respectively.
Hence my point about the importance of getting the full story before making a condemnation.
@LenHazell53 good point -not condemning you - but people who have nightmares about Nazis/Holocaust don't like seeing swastikas anywhere.
@sassygirl3869 These days there will be few remaining alive with first hand experience. Therefore it sounds like you are suggesting genetically inherited PTSD.
I had a Dutch acquaintance whose teenage years were spent under nazi occupation of Holland. It always fascinated me how he not only had incredibly strong hatred of nazism but also Catholics. A hatred that dated back to the days of the Spanish Netherlands from 1556 to 1714. Another case of genetic PTSD?
And yet AGAIN we are given one incident out of context with no indication as to how or why such an image came about and what it was meant to illustrate in the over all context of the lecture.
This is knee jerk shock journalism about knee jerk reactions from members of other schools within the faculty.
Okay the guys political beliefs on dictators (if reported accurately) seem extreme, but his politics are not the subject of his proposed sacking, it is the fact that an illustrative text taken out of context was deemed offensive to a minority.
Nazis existed, that is a fact, they stole an ancient symbol and forever tainted it, that is a fact, yes nationalist, especially national socialist doctrine and ideology is offensive and inherently flawed, that is a fact and lead to the holocaust, that is a fact.
Saying those facts are unpleasant and upsetting won't make them cease to be facts and won't erase them from history.
When I was at university the answer to a contentious point of discussion was to formulate a persuasive counter argument to disprove the original contention.
It was NOT to immediately sack the professor and so claim his proposal ceased to exist.
That Facts are more important than personal Feeling, is also a valid contention to be discussed. If you feel that statement is wrong, make a valid argument as to why I should listen to you, don't punish the person asking the question because it hurt your feelings to consider it and you have not got the gumption to see the irony in the situation.
Sometimes the offensive and unpleasant have to be confronted head on in order to expose them to the light of truth and justice, shooting the messenger will not invalidate the message, no mater how much you want it to. You'll still wake up with the barbarians at the gate, and they won't go away if you just shoot the guard who tells you so.
LenHazell53
Level 9
Dec 7, 2018
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Thanks Len for expressing so neatly what I flounder at.
I'm neither right wing nor Jewish.. but from the brief description it sounds like he had it coming.. same thing would likely happen here in Canada.. no "long arm" needed, just regular people who don't want their kids being taught by an extremist.
hippydog
Level 8
Dec 7, 2018
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Extremism? Bit late/ hypocritical to shout that after years of genocide by the IDF in Palestine.
@FrayedBear never said it was right.. but Canada is still a predominantly white western country with a culture to match.. he would be considered an extremist here.
@hippydog Interesting. I tend to think it sensibly left leaning and progressive whilst retaining old fashioned courtesy. It sounds like Tasmania - red neck godbothering "if it was good enough for great grandpa then its good enough for me" aka keep raping and pillaging and forget about leaving anything for future generations.
Teaching reality in an innovative and memorable way is what teaching should be all about. Are you denying that he taught the truth?
@FrayedBear the article doesnt give enough information for me to say.. I'm not a big follower of the situation myself..
@FrayedBear how about this.. I think the official stance in Canada on that is..
We like both sides.. we are just doing our best to stay neutral..
@hippydog Are you familiar with Pastor Niemöller's poem?
[en.m.wikipedia.org]...
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