Well the church has had 2,000 years (call it 80 generations if you like) to convey its supposedly compelling value proposition. Despite this ... and the unearned respect and deference it enjoyed throughout history until recently ... what has it got to show for itself?

Only about a third of humans identify as Christians -- even in a lame cultural sense. Maybe at most a fourth of that one-third believe the holy book is literally true. So they've failed to win hearts and minds.

They are poised to lose their position as the world's largest religion to Islam well before the end of this century. So they're failing in terms of raw numbers.

They have a history of genocide, authoritarianism, sexual assault, etc. So they're failing in terms of doing things to ease human suffering and increase human freedom.

Shall I continue? Should I need to bother?

His story is an amalgamation of various similar stories passed down. His and Buddha's gained some traction over time for various politic reasons and expediency.

Probably because it was all a lie to begin with....

Yeah crazy, almost like it was bullshit all along.

The Bible claims a lot of crap. That's because it is a load of crap. Put it down and go find something a little more enlightening to read.

Makes no sense to me. The guy would have died eventually in any event.

I prefer to just ignore all that dogmatic stuff. Arguing gets you nowhere and creates tension.

Jebus did not come to eliminate sin but to save you from it. If you do not sin, jebus died for nothing, so go do some sinin' for christ sake. Actually jebus only died for a couple of days and as the story (myth) goes, is very much alive today probably livin' the good life in paradise.

Also, if his dad were omniscient, he would've known beforehand that his kid's death would accomplish nothing and told him to forget about it then just drowned the world...again.

Except that didn't work the first time either so all we can really conclude from god's logic is that he's kinda dumb for an all-knowing being.

Plus the basic fact that violence has actually increased because of his "sacrifice". Seems he totally wasted his effort. This is, again, why there is no heaven only levels of hell.

You would

1. have to accept the ridiculous concept that there is a god
2. have to accept the ridiculous concept that he had a son
3. have to accept that this all powerful being couldn’t think of any other way to absorb the sins of the world than to have his son murdered in a manner so sadistic that it boggles the imagination.