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The Roswell UFO Incident (July 1947): Part One

What follows are extracts from an ongoing online debate I engaged in about the alleged UFO crash near Roswell, New Mexico in July 1947. The extracts have been edited so as to be meaningful as standalone paragraphs. Some previous knowledge about the Roswell event would probably be useful.

The UFO-related Roswell event (July 1947) was one of only a select few UFO events that has both extremely high credibility (professional military officers as witnesses – plural) as well as extremely high strangeness in the form of actual physical stuff for analysis on the slab in the lab. Alas, the downside is that the very nature of the Roswell event was never a scientific issue but always a highly classified and ongoing national security issue. Thus, you don’t get to know about that slab in the lab analysis.

Regarding the Roswell Event

The 1947 Roswell Incident tends to be the event that has triggered a lot of these dead aliens, etc. issue. Many of the first-hand eye-witnesses have gone on the record, including deathbed affidavits attesting to the reality of the Roswell Incident. You can find some relevant eye-witness interviews on YouTube. There are also many excellent hardcore books written by serious investigators that attest to the truth behind the Roswell Incident. Alas, Roswell was in 1947 and was quickly forgotten and given no renewed attention until 1980 when the first of now many Roswell books came to light. In that interval many witnesses moved and traces of whereabouts were lost. Others refused to talk. Others passed away before Roswell became topical. That's certainly the case now. Just about anyone and everyone present and accounted for then is now dead. It's rather hard to show up now to bear witness to the event when your six feet under. Others who might be alive and kickin' today, those in the loop, would be rather foolish to open their mouths. There are very, very, very severe penalties for releasing classified information, and Roswell, if it's really an accurate event dealing with an extraterrestrial crash, falls into that category. You've heard the quote "we've ways of making you talk"? Well the opposite is also true.

Roswell and the FBI

Here's some proof about the Roswell pudding. A little while ago I dropped a bit of a bombshell when I noted that formerly classified, now declassified FBI documents show that former FBI Director, the late J. Edgar Hoover, while actually in his capacity as Director, acknowledged that the (then) Army Air Forces (AAF) were in possession of crashed disks – disks being the alternative description to saucers, words that were in vogue before the term UFO was invented. These documents (plural) were issued just a few days after the Roswell incident (July 1947). Alas, not one peep was heard out of Roswell skeptics. Perhaps that revelation ended up in their too-hard-basket. So, how do they explain this statement by Mr. Hoover? In fact how do they explain the entire Roswell incident in light of the fact that the official line of unclassified public relations explanations (plural) – there have been many and that in itself is more than just a little bit suspect – have all proved to be ridiculous?

The armed forces clearly aren't opening up about Roswell, especially the USAF, but a declassified FBI office memorandum dated 22 March 1950 and addressed to Hoover notes that there were three "flying saucers' recovered in New Mexico, and, as noted above, an FBI telex message from Dallas, Texas to Hoover dated 8 July 1947 confirms that the Roswell debris was sent to Wright Field "by special plane for examination".

Roswell and Terrestrial Flying Disks

In 1947 we (Royal We) had no "disks". All later on down the track experiments with saucer-shaped aircraft failed - totally failed to be viable. There are no, and never have been any terrestrial "disks" that could operate in any shape, manner or form to that reported by observers of what we now call UFOs. So, the bottom line, in July 1947, if the military say they came into possession of a crashed "disk", it was not, could not, have been terrestrial. If these crashed "disks" were not terrestrial, what's the alternative?

Just for the sake of completeness, I have to retract slightly and acknowledge that there was the U.S. Navy’s “Flying Flapjack” (XF5U, nee the Vought V-173 “Flying Pancake&rdquo😉 which was cancelled in March 1947 as being over-budget and taking way, way, way too long to develop. Being propeller driven, it was already outdated with jet engines now coming to the fore. It, only one of each was ever built, neither never made a true flight and never left its home state of Connecticut. Further, the fate of each is known. One was destroyed and the other is in a museum, on display. It’s not the answer to Roswell.

Roswell and the Alien Bodies

Now the other side to the Roswell coin, a side not absolutely required to prove the existence of ET, were the reports of alien bodies. I personally don't care if there were bodies or not. The crashed "disks" alone are a smoking gun. However, what's very, very interesting is that the USAF thought it somehow necessary to explain away these alien bodies. In providing an explanation, they lend credibility to the reliability of those witness accounts of their being bodies. The USAF explanation was that these alien bodies were really just crash-test dummies that were tossed out of aircraft testing new parachute designs, etc. However, a bit of fact-checking quickly revealed a major "OOPS". The crash-test dummy programme didn't happen until several years after the Roswell incident. Oops indeed.

If there be aliens associated with the Roswell event, well skeptics will scream “Show me the Roswell aliens!!!” Of course instead of you going to see the ETs, perhaps the ETs might come and see you, or rather abduct you! Seriously, if you have no need to know about the nature of the Roswell debris, you also have no need to know about any associated extraterrestrial biological entities (EBEs) otherwise more commonly called ‘aliens’.
If skeptics want to negate the UFO extraterrestrial hypothesis (ETH), they had better come up with some darn good answers, some very convincing explanations, for the Roswell alien bodies, close encounters of the third kind, and the entire alien abduction phenomena. Good luck to them!

johnprytz 7 Jan 21
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Where is your thesis statement? [cws.illinois.edu]
[en.wikipedia.org]

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Have you ever been to the "UFO Museum" in Roswell? It's a collection of confirmation bias, unverifiable deathbed confessions, and "evidence" that's 100% not to the point they are trying to make.

Orbit Level 7 Jan 21, 2019
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Aliens exist.

Based on what evidence?

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Some free advice. Go to your local Community College and take English Composition One and Two. Learn the structure of paragraphs, a thesis statement, topic sentences, transitions between paragraphs are, etc. In short, how to write. No one, repeat, no one is going to struggle through that unorganized mess you have written. You clearly do not have the requisite writing skills to present your case.

@dahermit Making fun of someone, in this case, doesn't make you an intelligent person. That's pretty fucking rude!

@SleeplessInTexas You applied an emotional element to my post that was not intended. It was good advice for anyone who endeavors to produce a persuasive paper. The writing is painfully inept in that if does not follow any of the standards that are basic to good writing.

I did not, "make fun of him", I told him where to go to improve his writing. "... doesn't make you an intelligent person." is Non Sequitur. As a former teacher, YOUR writing, as short a sample as it is in your post, strikes me as such that I would have expected from one of my eighth grade students.

Go away and mind your own teenage business...if he does not get renforcement from the likes of you, he may just go to a Community College and learn how to present his argument.

@johnprytz "Or, on the other hand, perhaps your reading skills haven't advanced much beyond the second grade level.
If you had difficulty with what I posted it is just possible that the fault lies with you and not with me. My grammar and spell-checker had no problems with what I wrote."
Re: Your writing skills. Res ipsa loquitu

@johnprytz My reading skills were sufficiant to get me through grad school for my master's degree.

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