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Anybody on this site interested in ethical non-monogamy? I've been thinking a lot about it lately, after learning about it from a friend who is polyamorous.

DiceDiceBaby 5 Feb 3
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You might be interested in the group "Godless and Polyamorous" .

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What’s the difference between ethical-nonmonogamy and dating while not being a liar?

skado Level 9 Feb 3, 2019

Open/honest dating outside a committed relationship is one form of ethical non-monogamy.

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You might start a group with very clear guidelines. (And of course - search first that you aren't duplicating).

Pretty sure you'd find some others. At least some who would discuss it with you.

I was raised Roman Catholic and therefore my settings for Poly or Ethical non-monogamy are a "nope" but I can see the possibilities of having more than one egg in that basket and not making one person the only one. It could be really beneficial emotionally in ways most people aren't willing to explore due to other societal mores.

And I freak my friends out when I try to explain that. lol

Not the type of thing for folks who are NOT emotionally together however. That would be a train wreck.

Yes, it does freak out a lot of people 😉. And I agree with you that it really requires being emotionally together, and pretty self-aware, and very open to lots of talking about feelings.
One of the reasons I am interested in trying this is because, as you say, I see ways in which it could be beneficial emotionally.

@DiceDiceBaby, @RavenCT - Check out the group "Godless and Polyamorous"

@DoDapper I actually just saw them in "Related Groups" to this post. That is definitely where they should head - at least to see if it's the group for them. Thanks!

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I have nothing against it - but finding ONE compatible human is difficult enough !

True that! 😉 On the other hand, I'm wondering if having two or more partners would allow me to expect/need less of each one. Maybe I could have compatibility in different areas with different people, and wouldn't have to try to get all my needs met by one person.

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i had a long convo about this with a guy from here.... also, ethical non-monogamy and polyamory are 2 different things

The terms are not clearly universally defined, but my understanding was the ethical nonmonogamy is a subset of polyamory.

@DiceDiceBaby polyamory implies emotions are connected to every physical relationship, ethical non-monogamy just means that you aren't hiding the fact you're fucking around

@DiceDiceBaby i've been periodically parts of both

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I think I like ethical non-monogamy.

I was being snarky ok?

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I like how people are so insecure about it they have to add "ethical" in front like that makes it better than regular ol' fucking whoever you want.

Yes I see your point, but I think the addition of the "ethical" became necessary because so many people who don't know much about different ways of being non-monogamous think it means infidelity. Infidelity or cheating is not ethical - it's fucking whoever you want while lying about it to others. Ethical non-monogamy requires honesty - making sure that all partners involved understand and agree that you are going to have other partners.
I have heard countless stories of ENM folks trying to be upfront on dating sites, and having people assume they are cheating on a partner, or only into hookups (as opposed to emotionally connected relationships), etc.

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Sounds wonderful....until the jealousies kick in. Seen it happen in many so called open marriages. Like a lot of things it is better in theory than in practise.

That was always my feeling too, but I have had a close friend for two years now who is polyamorous, and I've started to meet others who are very serious about it. They work very hard to be open and honest with all partners and to avoid hurting others when possible. They also have a supportive community in my area (New England) and I think it's a lot easier when you have that supportive community. They acknowledge that jealousy happens, but seem to do pretty well at working it out with partners. I haven't tried ENM myself yet. Maybe I'll have more data in a year or two! 😉

@DiceDiceBaby Keep us updated ! ?

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I’m not interested in anything that has a name.

skado Level 9 Feb 3, 2019

I guess you don't have children or pets or even a girlfriend, then.

@maturin1919
Seems to be working out that way 🙂

@Sweeteej
My pets have names, but my relationship with them doesn’t need one.

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I have dabbled for the last 25 years or so.

I have been in open relationships for most of my life.

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That is what I'm interested right now. There are a few groups here for polyamory, non-monogamy, and alternative lifestyles but none of them are very active.

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I’m interested in what ethical non-monogamy actually is .... sounds like dating and hooking up with different people with no strings attached??

It can be that. It can also be deep, long-term relationships. The important thing is that you are honest with your partners what you are doing. That's where the ethics comes in. A good book for newbies is More Than Two by my friend, Franklin
[morethantwo.com]

@Sweeteej I like that book.

The definitions are a little fluid because it's a fairly new thing, but my understanding is that non-monogamy just means having, or being open to having, more than one love or sex partner at a time. Within non-monogamy, there are many options - swinging is lots of partners, no emotional attachment, and ethical non-monogamy means more than one partner, total honesty at all times with all partners about involvement with others, and usually some emotional connection. There are other options but I am still learning about all this.

Another great book is The Ethical Slut

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