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Do you support the idea that we are all created equal as stated in the constitution? Or have times changed to rework this idea? What would make someone less equal than another person? If that's even possible...

Cutiebeauty 9 Feb 9
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Six feet under we all are equal anyway

Not really where I was going with this topic ??

@Cutiebeauty I know... IamSmartyPants this morning ?

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I'd like to believe all are born equal but then I see the tards running around in MAGA hats and I realize that some are born inferior.

??? this made me giggle

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I'm going to stick with the Constitution.

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"Rights" are being mentioned a lot. I tend to agree with George Carlin that there are no such thing as "rights". The title "bill of rights" is a misnomer from the beginning.

To answer your question more directly: I do support all people treated equal, though that isn't possible for even a moment in practice. Being an individual home sapiens inherently means being separate from all other homo sapiens, inherently meaning it is Impossible to be exactly equal with another individual.

If I'm more honest about my subconscious ulteriors, having poor health - physical handicaps - makes it much easier to support equality since I'm not.

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Theoretically we are, well not created, but born equal, but some have natural advantages, such as being born into wealth or privilege. Others are born disadvantaged because they have a genetic or some other defect. Those on the religious right insist that even though there are tests that can indicate when a foetus has these defects and can be aborted, these children must still be born. I vehemently disagree with that stance, believing that it is every child’s birthright to be both wanted and loved by it’s mother and to expect to have an equal chance in having a healthy and happy life. The wealth factor we can’t do much about, unfortunately.

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I think the whole issue that causes disputes the context of the word "Equal"

Should we have equal rights?
Should we have equal responsibilities?
Should we have equal opportunities?
Should we have equal outcomes?

I'm all for equal rights, equal responsibilities, and equal opportunities. I'm 100% opposed to equal outcomes.

BD66 Level 8 Feb 9, 2019
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From a biological perspective we are created equal. We should also all have the same rights. But we don't all come into this world with the same opportunities. Some people have intrinsic advantages like being physically in good shape and some people have advantages based on their parents good fortune.
I think the "created equal idea" is a good one and I see no reason to revoke it. It says that there is a minimum amount everyone deserves regardless of their background or disadvantages. There are people in this world who want to lower that minimum and some that want to raise that minimum. I know who I support.

Dietl Level 7 Feb 9, 2019

"From a biological perspective we are created equal." Are you sure that is what you want to say? In fact, all humans are different...even twins. From the "biological" (physical and mental capacity), standpoint, we are very unequal. Nevertheless, we should all have equal rights.

@dahermit It depends on how strict of a definition of "equal" you want to use. What I meant was that we are all human beings with roughly the same genetic material even with some slight variation. When we say two people are of equal height we don't mean to a precision of a nanometer but only to what is reasonable to measure. There are always error bars.
The relatively small amounts of variation was what I meant with "intrinsic advantages". I think it's pretty obvious that I didn't mean that we are exact copies of one another (even then you could argue that we are very unequal in spatial position). How can you fail to see that you are making a strawman here?

@Dietl Not so much a "strawman" argument as it is that my lifetime observations (and the bell curve used to illustrate the distribution of I.Q. levels), have caused me to believe that there is a relatively large variation in humans in regard to intelligence. That is why I stressed "equal rights".

@dahermit Yeah, we can argue about whether we want to call those variations small or large. It depends on what we compare them to. Whatever.
But to say that I meant that all humans are exactly the same is an obvious strawman. You can backpedal if you want to but that's the comment that you made.

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"Equal" as per the Constitution refers to equal rights. And yes, we (non-wealthy, working class), are less equal inasmuch as the wealthy oligarchs have taken power via their Republican minions. And, the Republicans with their voter suppression schemes have in effect, diminished the power of the majority working class...in a sense, making them "less equal".

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Yes, absolutely.

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We are equal under the law, but it's something we need to continue to work towards. Things were actually a lot worse years ago. We've made strides, but still have a ways to go.

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Yes, people are still equal. Due to the drama in world that makes it look other wise. Plus the religious fools and Hitler 2.0 in Oval office don't help the concept of people being created equal.

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Ah yes, the good founding fathers: all white men are created equal--

It has been reinterpreted over time and MOST accept the new interpretations.

@jlynn37 - True. The original hadn't been pointed out yet, though, and snappy cynicism is my most marketable skill.

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Arguing that some certain groups are superior is racist.

Under the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and other federal anti-discrimination laws, a person may not be discriminated against based on:

Age
Race
National origin
Religious beliefs
Gender
Disability
Pregnancy
Veteran status

Many states also have their own protected class laws that may often be more inclusive and broad than federal statutes. For example, some state laws also protect:

Gender identity
Sexual orientation
Political ideology
Serving in a state militia

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I have always had difficulty reconciling what I think and feel. To what we know. I would like to think yes. But I know that our countries forefathers didnt even consider the possibility of some that looks like our last President let alone me. But the fact that they allowed for changes to be made. Maybe they did. But I doubt it.

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Equal in the way that our bodies operate outside of the Hormone/Testosterone chemical difference! I would say yes, we are equal@! Clearly there is a difference in our thinking patterns!

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No, but in todays money there should be a minimum income and minimum retirement.

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Equality under the law is an ideal that is always imperfectly realized. Aiming high and stretching for it is one of the things that separates excellence from mediocrity.

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I believe we are all created equal under the law, but I do believe, and I never thought I would have said this, that certain tests should be given before allowing people to vote.This is obviously a result of our current Administration. Even rights may be qualified. We have a right to freedom of speech but there are qualifications as to time, place and content. I would have no problem submitting to such a test, and losing my right to vote in an election should I fail. This qualification could take the place of the age restriction on voting, which I find arbitrary in light of the fact so many of our teenagers are more knowledgeable than at least 1/4 of our voting population.

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First attempt at equality

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i support our all being equal. it needs work; we are not treated equally. i try to ignore the word "create."

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I support it but it’s not the way it is.

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Why do you ask?

lerlo Level 8 Feb 9, 2019
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Inequality is the cause of most wars . . . . if those people, (and their progeny) who thought they were better than others had to fight on the front lines, there would be no wars.

THHA Level 7 Feb 9, 2019
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I think we are fortunate that they put it in the constitution even though their idea of equality was not as we, at least many of us, see it today. There is no ONE, greater or lesser than another. IMO

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