The reason why capitalism is evil is because capitalism allows people to amass wealth far beyond that of other human beings, and far beyond the needs of a single person in a lifetime . . . Which places more and more power in the hands of these wealthy individuals, who, as a result of their increase in power over others, become more and more separated from their fellow human beings, and begin to enslave their fellow human beings, and, worst of all, eventually begin to believe that they are superior to their fellow human beings, start to dehumanize their fellow human beings, warring upon them, or sending them off to fight in wars were they absolutely would never risk their own lives in, wars to aggrandize themselves ever more causing widespread suffering and death of their fellow human beings. These people begin to think that they are elite, special, kings or queens, chosen by "god" . . . . Above the laws of nature even. They believe that they are "chosen", they begin to believe that they are above all norms of decency, because "god" has told them that they are on some sacred mission to bring the world over to him at whatever cost it takes, so that they can rule the world without opposition, that the masses are meant to serve them, and if world war comes, it will be a "holy war", and while they pretend to be the protector of the masses, they are actually the exploiters, destroyers of, not only the masses, but the environment, and they become a threat to the very lifeblood of the earth, leading it on to a path of irreversible doom.
. Meanwhile, those who are not in the upper echelons of society, as the power of those who are increases, the exploited begin to be more and more humiliated, dehumanized, and believe themselves to be powerless to change anything. They believe most readily what they want to believe . . . That god will help them if only they pray more, that their leaders have their best interests in mind, that if called to go fight somewhere, that there must be an enemy, and a good reason . . . . They become so humiliated and debased that they do not even bother to question why they are being sent to their deaths, why they are living in abject poverty, why they have no power whatsoever.
Capitalism brings out the very worst in man by introducing unfettered competition against one's own species, to the point of murderous competition, dehumanization, slavery, wars for profit, of aggrandizement, wholesale slaughter. . . . Destruction of the world as a sustainer of life . . . In short, a reality that becomes a nightmare of annihilation, self-destruction.
. There is no cure for capitalism, it is a cancer, and the humans who exploit their fellow humans are always the last to admit what capitalism is, because they have benefited so much from it., and generally they will not likely change that view until they are on the cart headed for the guillotine . . . . And indeed, if the oppressed do not destroy them and their ways, the capitalists will visit their doom upon all of mankind, and the whole earth with their complete disregard for the environment, their wars for "god", militarism and nuclear weapons.
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Feel free to reply to any comment by clicking the "Reply" button.Wealthy people have more money because they create real wealth and provide needed goods and services. The portfolios of well-off people do not cause poor people to be poor.
Beyond a few basic needs, poverty is a state of mind—a value judgment and a matter of perception.
There is a limited role for government—I like the Norway model.
WilliamFleming
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Mar 31, 2019
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irrefutable evidence shows that a significant % CEOs in the US check off the criteria for sociopaths. on top of that they're very smart. what chance does that leave the average lunchbucket?
sadly, he's fucked, and we're talking about 60% of the population.
callmedubious
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Mar 30, 2019
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THHA:
I find that view troubling, let me tell you why. The Ancient Romans had a saying that I go by, it is "Experentia Docet" . . . "Experience teaches." . . . These people are NOT any smarter, they have only had different experiences. We learn everything we know by experiences . . . and we limit ourselves by limiting our experiences. Ever heard of how professors, physicists, and generally people with Master's degrees can be extremely absent minded or just plain daffy? (Ben Carson is a prime example) That is because they, just like everyone else have LIMITED experiences, and they spent all of their experience time studying one particular field, to the deficit of everything else. In fact, I would be willing to bet that nearly every human being you run in to on a daily basis, could teach you something new . . . . because we all have different experiences, and different areas of interest and specialty.
Taking that back to the CEO's . . . . they are no better than us, despite the wealth or the media attention, and I would be willing to bet a lot of them are pretty fucking incompetent in a lot of things, some in their own field. When we think of people like that as above our level of thought power, brain power if you will, we surrender power simply by yielding to it, whether consciously or unconsciously. Unless you can find someone who is truly immortal and has thousands of years of variegated experience, (or some form of transhumanistic being with futuristic augmented mental powers via computer) you will not find anyone vastly superior mentally, and, it is rare indeed to run across someone who is a complete idiot that you can learn nothing from, all joking aside.
They use the media to make people think that way . . . . it gives them power, the religious people do it, they fake people out making them think that they have some divine revelation, and in the end, it is ALL bullshit.
@THHA ,
i think you missed my point. all being equal, including intelligence, psychopaths have no empathy which makes it much easier for those running large corporations to focus on profits & disregard such niceties as pollution control, laying off hapless employees & making working conditions harder for the remainder. decisions that a normal person might not make which leaves the normal CEO at an advantage trying to compete against these psychos.
of course, the same applies in politics & many other fields of endeavour.
I don't know who gets to decide what defines "wealth beyond that of others". Which others? Any others? People who make more than minimum wage? It's all very vague.
Because these days the wealth curve shoots almost straight up past a certain point, it is plausible one could find oneself in the top 1.5% in terms of sustained annual earnings but only about the top 12% in terms of net worth and for reasons not necessarily the fault of that person perhaps only halfway to where they need to be to have a reasonably anxiety-free retirement. This would define a person by any standards as not wealthy -- maybe you could say they have a tenuous toe-hold on the upper middle class. Is that too much? If so, how would you quantify it?
The reality is that politics and policy that are resentment-based don't cut it as objective measures of fairness.
Truly progressive income taxes (the kind we gradually abandoned beginning in the Eisenhower administration, where the wealthiest are at around a 90% marginal tax rate) would fix an awful lot of the problems you describe. A guaranteed minimum income would help as well, I'm talking "fuck you" money to where if a person can accept a basic level of housing, food and clothing (maybe $30K per year in the US), they don't have to work (and by implication, put up with crappy or exploitive working conditions). We're well beyond where we need to be as a society to be capable of providing that, and that would also come from the dreaded transfer of wealth downward. It would just be a matter of providing the fruits of improved productivity that the wealthiest have hoarded for themselves since the 1970s.
Of course the problem is that the privileged would see such policies as resentment-based but in truth they are just rational responses to the unhealthy concentration of wealth in a particular sector of society.
mordant
Level 8
Mar 30, 2019
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So, I work hard amass wealth and that wrong.
Yea.
Marktzu
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Mar 30, 2019
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THHA:
"Work hard" . . . .
While I don't necessarily agree with the poster's politics, I don't think he said that at all.
Most of the uber-wealthy don't work hard. they live off inherited, dynastic wealth.
Also, many who worked hard and came up from nothing into wealth, work ruthlessly and unethically.
I think society can start to make a distinction between legitimate earnings and ill-gotten gains. Hint: legal <> ethical. There are lots of things one can do to amass a fortune that are not criminal, but are immoral just the same.
so you're one of the swamp creatures..
I agree. Have you checked out Richard Wolff? He is for the worker coop as appose to capitalism. Makes more sense but difficult to achieve. It's true democracy in a grass roots environment.
confidentrealm
Level 7
Mar 30, 2019
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But Capitalism is good and Socialism is bad. Capitalism requires consent, whereas Socialism lets the elite force themselves onto others.
ldheinz
Level 7
Mar 30, 2019
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Do you really believe that? I mean, I work very hard but no matter what I do personally, I have no chance to become uber rich, not that I would want to. It makes more sense for people to bond together for the good of all instead of constantly fighting over scraps
THHA:
So this is why the USA has to FORCE capitalism on Iraq, Afghanistan, Ukraine, Libya, and wants to FORCE it upon Venezuela? In fact, here is your capitalism and CONSENT at work in Libya: [edition.cnn.com]
@THHA The only capital mentioned in the article is Tripoli.
@confidentrealm, of course I mean that. Working hard is NOT what leads to being "uber rich", BTW. But you say that you wouldn't want that, anyway. Maybe you WISH that people should "bond together", but the fact is that they don't. Wishing that people stop being people will not achieve your goals.
Also, you are showing one of the great perversions of socialism, that of envy. If my neighbor has 10x my wealth it harms me in no way whatsoever. But you wish to harm others because they aren't as incapable as you. What do YOU have that others should be able to take away from you because THEY don't want it? Personally, I don't like to ski. Should I be able to prevent everyone else from skiing just because I don't like it?
Also, I note that you aren't "bonding together" with rich people, so you clearly don't believe your own philosophy.
@THHA, you should check your facts. The US military is NOT forcing anything into Venezuela, the Ukraine, or Libya, and we are in Iraq and Afghanistan because of terrorists, not economic policies.
But it's interesting that you mention Venezuela without acknowledging what decades of socialism has inevitably created.
THHA:
No? This is the smoking gun, as far as the US-brokered coup in Ukraine is concerned.
Obama admitting his role in the US-supported coup in Ukraine, a war crime. (First video link below).
Victoria Nuland, Assistant Secretary of State for European and Eurasian Affairs at the United States Department of State, admits in the second video that the USA supported the Ukrainian coup with 5 billion dollars. Note the Chevron symbol in the background of the video. John McCain (Senator Lovewar himself) and Victoria Nuland were in Ukraine in December 2013 amid the mass anti-government protests. (The third video is of John McCain in Ukraine addressing protesters.) During the visit, McCain met with Ukrainian opposition leaders in the country’s capital of Kiev, voicing his support for the protests, adding that he saw Ukraine’s future with Europe.
Biden's youngest son, Hunter Biden was hired to the board of Burisma Holdings, Ukraine’s largest private gas producer.
The proxy Ukraine war is all about energy. The Eastern part of Ukraine is the major oil and gas producing region of Ukraine accounting for approximately 90 per cent of Ukrainian production and according to EIA (The American Energy Information Administration) may have 42 tcf (trillion cubic feet) of shale gas resources technically recoverable from 197 tcf of risked shale gas in place.
George Soros is heavily invested in Ukraine . . . . to the tune of about one billion dollars.
Obama admits the US-sponsored coup:
Victoria Nuland . . . 5 Billion recently, with Chevron symbol behind her
John McCain in Ukraine addressing protesters
THHA:
No? [nbcnews.com]
THHA:
Also . . . You said "The US military is NOT forcing anything into Venezuela" I did NOT say anything of that sort. I said "wants to FORCE it upon Venezuela?" You think you have FACTS, but can't seem to read above a junior high level.
@ldheinz excuse me? I have no idea from where you draw your conclusion
Alternative plot twist: "the masses see their lives ruled and ruined by the elite, and rise up and refuse to take any more, and by sheer numbers overthrow the thieves, and start a new system, which also has problems, eventually, and the cycle continues."
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