I know! I have never had any trouble reading a block post. I detest grammar Nazi's and find it odd when that is there only comment. Why not just skip over block posts if they bother you that much?

Too me Spirituality requires no belief especially on others part. It is about the value the individual finds in it. And while I do think its all explainable I think something are better just enjoyed rather then thought about.

@Quarm sorry, the value the individual finds in WHAT? i still don't understand.

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@genessa The value in a sunset, the touch of your child's hand after birth. It is a word though so its messy but for me spirituality is a unique experience that no one else can replicate exactly. For context when I was a practicing Christian I sense a presence in a Church. I cannot explain it though I am sure it has an explanation. But its effect as a memory for me was fundamental to how I see the world as a place worthy of effort and love. I do not care what others judge, think or contest about it., They were not there and are not me. That too me is spirituality.

@Quarm okay so why can't i thrill at the sight of a sunset and the touch of a child's hand without calling it spirituality? why is that spirituality? do people who do not feel spiritual not appreciate sunsets or whatever? why can't it just be what it is? i appreciate that for you it is spirituality but to me it isn't. it is just appreciating the real world.

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@genessa You can call it whatever you want. A word is simply a way to communicate. The reason why communication is as complex as it is is due to the fact that all of us are on some level unique and alone in that. We all process information and experience things differently. Too me communicating as I did the idea of what is spirituality (for me) is in no way a challenge or judgment on others use of the word or not. Even the "real" world is subjective in relation to how people process information and react to things. I find joy in the unknown and while I appreciate reason based explanations sometimes I enjoy things as mysteries. I do not feel my idea of spirituality limits your point of view on the same experience ( A sunset for example.) I like spirituality because to me at least it has none of the limitations of religion or gods inherent in its intent. It requires no belief or creed, no holy book or church. And it requires no participation or involvement of others. I can understand your frustration when others label you as any word you do not agree with. I imagine these people use it as a way of limiting or altering your experience/POV to fit their narrative and I understand why that would be annoying. Me I always laugh when others tell me what I am feeling is THIS. And use it as a way to box me up in a word or concept, group or creed. They have no hold on me. It makes for a lonely existence I have realized but long ago I decided I would rather be alone and content then in a room full of people pretending to believe or participate.

@Quarm pardon the religious word (we need new words lol) but amen! every time i say something political that someone disagrees with i am told i must be a trump voter (not even close to being true). i understand that as a generic insult but it's like calling a skinny person far or vice versa with no hint of irony. i'm also often told to calm down when i'm not excited simply because i expressed an opinion. so i know about being put in boxes. in a sense it's a hazard of the internet but in another sense one wishes others had more sense about it, since i'm not the only person who knows i am on the internet lol

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And spirituality does not care what you think, religion does.

@Quarm Again, another useless concept that means nothing.

@Seeker3CO Agreed, but whether I believe that kind of stuff or not I can easily understand how ideas of spirituality and god need not be connected.

@Seeker3CO What if there spiritual beliefs require no justification? Religion does, it requires believers and nonbelievers.