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BUTTIGIEG IS FULL OF SH-T --

Seeing as how PB is surging in the polls based, I believe, on little more than superficial charm and a relentless push by the media to promote him as some kind of golden boy, it should be noted what it is about him that's not being made clear. He claims to be a progressive but his views don't bear that out when looked at more closely.

Let's do this as a list of bullet points of several core progressive policies.

  • Medicare For All - He says he's for M4A but he's actually only for a public option to the existing system which keeps private insurance alive and thriving when we need to get rid of it entirely. He uses the term "Medicare for All" then proposes something else. It's a bait & switch.

  • Tuition Free College - He uses a version of the conservative argument that tuition free college places an unfair burden on the disadvantaged by forcing them to subsidize education for everyone including the wealthy. The wealthy aren't likely to send their kids to a public college, they're much likelier to send them to private or ivy league schools. The disadvantaged are only aided by debt-free public college.

  • Climate Change - He proclaims he loves The Green New Deal and calls it a step in the right direction but on his policy platform he only states his intention to have a "comprehensive climate change plan." He does not state he will support the GND specifically. He also offers no info on what this comprehensive plan of his is. He only promises a plan will be created. Basically then, he plans to have a plan eventually. Trump did a lot of of this shit too.

  • Big Money Donors - I know, I know, he signed a pledge to take no money from the fossil fuel industry but, make no mistake, he's fine with corporate and wealthy donors. He takes donations from other business interests and is wide open to Wall St. money should they be willing to offer it. He's said so publicly with carefully selected words. Big money donors are a one-way ticket to corruption that no progressive would welcome.

There's more: electoral college reform with no plan, automation's impact on jobs with no plan, his checkered past employment with companies of highly questionable ethics and so on. How can someone be a progressive who doesn't support even the most basic progressive policies?

This guy's just another centrist Dem trying to pass himself off as a progressive because it's popular. That's why the DNC has signed off on him. He's a ringer. Don't fall for it.

Bernie remains the country's best option. He's smart, he's progressive, and he has detailed plans.

Sgt_Spanky 8 Apr 19
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I was initially impressed with Buttigieg because he's the anti-Trump in terms of education and intelligence and he even has Bernie beat when it comes to lucid, concise, well delivered rhetoric. I think Pete nailed his first town hall in ways politicians very seldom do. It was refreshing.

But you're correct that he doesn't hold up to closer scrutiny, and even though I expect his policy positions to be fleshed out, I don't expect to like his as much as Bernie's. I'd have to say that I'd hold my nose less if he got the nomination, than I did when I voted for Hillary. But that's damning with faint praise, really.

It remains true that Bernie is the real deal and everyone else is an imitation. Also the narratives that Bernie cost Clinton the election or that he would lose to Trump, are about as false as they come.

At this point I'm far more worried about Biden entering the race than about Mayor Pete's rise. Not so much because I think Biden will not sink like a stone in his inimitable fashion, gaffe machine that he is. But because he'll be a huge distraction while he lasts.

You're right, he's the shiny object being waved in our faces to draw attention from Bernie who they hate. And, yeah, Biden is the last thing we need -- and old school centrist with no new ideas.

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..I thought Public Broadcasting was female…

Varn Level 8 Apr 19, 2019
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Mayor Pete is being promoted by the corporate media and the Dem party's leaders and establishment as the golden boy because it's all part of a move by those groups and the Dem's big money donors to stop Bernie at all costs without having to kill him or attack him directly. So, yes, there is nothing progressive for real at all about Pete, he's just being promoted as such by himself and those groups I mentioned to try to confuse primary voters about if he's much like Bernie or not and maybe peel some support away from Bernie. Real progressives won't fall for it because they know that anyone who accepts money from big donors can't be trusted, including Warren. But many potential primary voters aren't so smart about that, unfortunately, and that's who this is aimed at.

I see the Dem establishment's fear of Bernie as confirmation he's the right guy.

@Sgt_Spanky Same here.I know my enemies, and who I can trust or not as a socialist and progressive by the company they keep. If Wall Street, corporate America, the corporate media, the Dem leaders and establishment, and the big money donors all hate and fear Bernie, then I know that he's the right one for me and is on my side. Same with Pete and the company he keeps and who supports him tells me he is not on my side and not to be trusted.

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I like him because he presents a public persona of not treating to other side as the enemy. I'm tired of assholes. I don't care what religion or lack thereof.

MsAl Level 8 Apr 19, 2019
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Bernie would be better for the progressive cause IF he could get elected but it’s centrists and independents that will swing the election and I would rather have literally anyone who will beat Trump than have my ideal candidate lose to him.

Amen. I'd vote for a Labradoodle for Prez if I thought it could beat Trump.

Amen?

He would, of course, have all the corporate media against him as well as possibly even the Dem party against him, but if Bernie got into the presidential debates he would wipe the floor with Trump, as would have Nader if he had ever got the chance during the times he ran. The reason Bernie could still win after that even if the groups I mentioned were against him is that his message of hope and actually fighting for the poor and working class would motivate most of those who don't vote anymore because they are poor and feel otherwise not represented or cared about by either party, and thus, we would suddenly have 75% or higher, maybe 90%, of eligible voters turn out. And Bernie would get most of those former non-voters. We normally get about a 50% turnout in a prez election and that's because the groups I mentioned have figured out that neither party cares about them and given up voting. Before the 1970s, we used to have way higher turnouts, but then the Dems lost credibility with those groups so they stopped voting.

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