How can priests carry out their sordid attacks on children if they believe their god is watching them? is he also a pedophile?

@irascible Yes, by moving these priest around different parishes they managed to avoid it pretty much.

@KKGator Thanks, KKG. I'm too tech retarded to know how to do that.

@TomMcGiverin You're welcome.

@KKGator I like to sing karaoke, so I go two times a week now. I had never heard that song before or seen the movie The Meaning Of Life by Monty Python, one of the few I missed. When I first heard the song performed at a karaoke show I laughed so hard I almost pissed my pants.....I'm learning I can't afford to get angry all the time, laughter is important too.

Thanks for your suggestion re the clip Tom. It is brilliantly "conceived" I really enjoyed it.

In the same vein ...

@madmac You're welcome. It's very funny, as long as you have a twisted sense of humor like mine I suppose. Mainstream people, not so much....

It's all down to their belief and fixation with their God's right to create and destroy human life. I really couldn't give a hoot what the Pope says. What's disturbing is the number of 'no exceptions' anti-abortion laws that seem to be sweeping through the US at the moment, because those writing the laws believe they're answering a higher calling.

@NicoleCadmium The Trump group wants to keep this going until they get the wording just right, then challenge Roe v. Wade again in the Supreme Court. If they succeed women will have no rights or healthcare and the GOP will declare victory over abortion. What they forget is that making something illegal does not make it go away. It only makes it worse for women and makes the GOP hypocrites.

Well put Emerald !

@altschmerz I know, her carrer was sidetracked afterwards and she was only telling the truth..... "Know who the enemy really is"

Being the better among worst does not deserve praise or respect. He's still the head of a terrible organization for mankind.

Who is we . I need to respect someone that he delivers no punishment for his pedophiles minions ?
Let me help u w this :
First of all , I can assure u and anyone else , respect of any type is earned .
Second of all ,
U are not in any position to tell me who " I need to respect "
And third ,
Silence is acceptance . U can accept him and his people all u want . Congrats .

Obviously, you have not read the link I shared.

My point is simple; He's working in many ways to drag the many conservatives of the church, kicking and screaming, in to the 21st century.

I'm just suggesting we cut him some slack.

On becoming Pope, Francis set a new tone by setting up his headquarters in a humble guesthouse for priests rather than the grand apostolic palace — a gesture of humility that carried with it an implied criticism of past excesses.

He also did away with the system of automatically giving a cardinal’s hat to bishops in certain posts. Conservatives have been irked by some of his more liberal stances. In 2015, Francis ordered every parish to host two refugee families.

And last week, in his most explicit acceptance of homosexuality yet, he told a gay Catholic that God had made him that way and that his sexuality “does not matter.”

So - on one hand you're right;

But to say he's "the best among the worst" "Who is we" and "I don't respect him at all"...

Is showing me and the world your intolerance of the #religulous,

IMO...

so I only feel sorry for all 3 of you.

I recognize SOME of them are probably honest.
I would feel less inclined to think ill of them if they were willing to actually take steps towards solving the problem instead of making it worse.

I've heard plenty of them brag about stalking or dissuading women from having abortions, but never once do they talk about taking any measures to prevent unwanted pregnancies, besides outright terrorizing women.
I don't like abortions either. No one does.

What bothers me about the anti-choice crowd who does not appear to have sinister intentions towards women, is their shortsightedness: Lack of solutions, being oblivious to the fact abortions are NOT going to stop - only the safe ones - and the long-term consequences of setting a precedent where the government legislates what people get to do with their own bodies.

Good intentions are all well and good, but we have to be adults and think before we act.

@MLinoge Good points. I think to understand you have to realize there are a bunch of empty-headed political types strutting around, saying whatever they think will win favor with voters or with their church flock.

They are mistaken in what they think IMO. A majority favors choice. At some point that will become apparent and they’ll be spouting off for choice.

@powder They are two different things but they are related. I was talking about the workings of nature. Obviously humans are not pigs nor stalks of corn, but some of the same principles apply, and many of us feel sadness when natural events violate our sensibilities.

No, I do not advocate the culling of unwanted offspring after birth.

Numbers 5 has specifics for when, how and why a husband can force his wife to have an abortion.

"Sanctity of life"? Like Hell.

we can even say that some conservatives have a problem with woman deciding to have sex. Because in case of rape (where the woman have no say) you can abort, bur once woman have choose to have sex, then for then there is no more choices.

@Pedrohbds but the recent spate of US abortion legislation has been prohibiting abortion in cases of rape and incest, too. In at least one case by someone who claims that God spoke to him, telling him to create this law.

If you are actually hearing the voice of God, the only office you're fit for is one with padded wallpaper.

Religion has treated women as mere breeding vessels for a long time. So did society in general, back when the religious texts were written. It's clinging to millennia old attitudes that are precisely the reason why religion has no place dictating the law in modern day secular society. Stuff that made sense a couple of thousand years ago doesn't necessarily make sense now.

@NicoleCadmium when the religions were being written, you actually needed to use any available woman as baby factories, because otherwise your village would be sacked and enslaved by the neighbor that did it. That is why this kind of religion grew.

But I do Agree with you, this is not a necessity of modern society anymore, we are not in continuous war state, so yes, this kind of argument is out of table.
the real issue becomes survival of the religion, and they will try to hold any piece of cultural dogma they can. They will hide it in mercy, protection of life, morality and even fake science.