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LOL... NO BALLS DEMOCRATS

CNN reached out to 41 freshmen Democrats who flipped Republican seats last year to ask if they currently support starting an impeachment inquiry. The results were telling -- nearly half (20) didn't respond. Of those who did, the vast majority were either a "no" or undecided.

[cnn.com]

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St-Sinner 9 June 11
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Level 8

Don't shoot at someone till certain you can kill them

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Level 9

You deliberately misportray the situation. No prosecutor undertakes a case until he or she has amassed a preponderance of evidence against the defendant with the most skeptical of jury pools. You, like all Republicans, are trying to hurry the process so that it will fai8l. Be honest, for once.

I have not ever supported impeachment while others are screaming out with anger and hatred. My point here was if you are a Democrat , say yes or no. Don't avoid the question, don't run. Prosecutors don't run. Kapish?

@St-Sinner You do not understand the U..S. Constitution. Impeachment is a trail for criminal conduct or grievous conduct. The only difference in impeachment and regular trial is that the jury are not carefully screened people who promise to judge the perpetrator solely based on the evidence , but politicians -- among which there are corrupt men and women and those who are such ideological true believers that they will choose ideology over truth and evidence.

@wordywalt lol... I went to law school but ok.

We are talking about Congress and politics, not a court of law and jury. Bookish knowledge does not work in politics. There are different dynamics at play here. Political winds matter more than the proof and the truth. So put your books and glasses down and watch the political drama unfolding slowly.

@St-Sinner Yes, that is why Democrats are not proceeding to Impeachment rapidly. They are in the process of collecting a mass of evidence and making it entirely public, so that the public will force Republican senators to finally show some moral and patriotic backbone.

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Level 8

i read that article too. you left some really important things out.

  1. all the democrats contacted were in red states and had flipped their seats from red to blue. they have constituencies that want them to be cautious. they DO represent their constituencies, right?

  2. there are 235 democrats in the house. why reach out only to 41 in red states? maybe cnn already knew what kind of story it wanted to write!

  3. when did cnn reach out? how much time did it give the reps to answer? the article doesn't say. is answering cnn the TOP priority any given representative has on his or her plate?

  4. is it just POSSIBLE that someone could have a reason for not being in favor of immediate impeachment hearings, or being undecided, or not wanting to tell cnn until s/he HAS decided, and that reason might not be evil, cowardly or otherwise negative? is this even possible? could someone actually disagree about the efficacy of such a thing and still be working on a way to oust or otherwise defeat trump and the republicussians? or is everyone who doesn't do what you want when you want it automatically either a wimp or a villain?

we've had this discussion before. i write this for the benefit of other readers. i know you think you know all the facts and are not open to the possibility that someone else's mindset has the least bit of value, and if that sounds like a personal attack, pardon me, it is not. it is merely an observation.

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Level 8

I by all means am not a trump supporter.
But it does puzzle me a bit with the whole "impeach him" thing.
You do realize that if that were to happen Mike Pence would become president.
That's like removing Hitler to replace him with kim jong un, or something of that nature. Until the next election, it is a lose, lose situation. and if the Dems don't pull it together, it will be another 4 years of that narcissist.
I mean at last I read there are 20+ some dems running. that has clusterfuck written all over it.

Anger is an emotion that will not allow you to think with a reason. The same with hatred.

@motrubl4u exactly. I was neither hateful, nor angry, just stating facts.

The 20+ thing might have been inevitable given how horrible Trump is. Everyone and their uncle's dog see an opening to be president. Right now it feels ridiculous, but it might make the final nominee that much stronger. I do hope there is some kind of effort by the eventual nominee to balance a ticket that appeals to a wider range of people. Picking a running mate that is bland or virtually the same as the nominee to "play it safe" would feel like 2016 all over again. Does anyone even remember Tim Kaine? (I thought I did, but when I got to the end of that sentence...I had to google his name.)
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Level 8

Big deal. Republican Senate. Waste of time. Republicans impeached Clinton when it was a Democrat Senate, just to gum up the works. Democrats care more about the country than Republicans.
BUT I think they should impeach him anyway.

They should answer the question, not run away.
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Level 10

No shit without the Senate is a moot point

bobwjr Level 10 June 11, 2019
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Without the power in the senate and the house, impeachment is useless...I think it is not a matter of no balls but a matter of using them when we need them...

My gut wants him impeached or imprisoned, but my brain tells me that it is not the thing to do...I spoke to both of my Congressmen today (via email) and told them how I feel about it...they both agree...one is a Democrat and one is a Republican...

Doing is one thing but why avoid answering the question? Why not speak your mind just like the Congressmen you called responded?

@St-Sinner Their seats are not threatened...they know where their constituents stand...

I agree with @thinktwice. Demanding an answer now is pretty much trolling.
Without the Senate, the court of public opinion is the thing that will remove tRump from office and the next chance will be the next election.

I personally doubt he will resign. The 'cannot indict a sitting president' DOJ opinion is protecting him from fraud and racketeering charges. I suspect that when his finances come out he will be strongly at risk of prison. Depending on the specific dates involved, he may start arguing statute of limitations.

As far as the Democratic Congress goes -- they probably can't force his early exit. The big questions are going to be: 1) Will there enough tribal Red electoral college support to reelect him without the popular vote?, and 2) What will the Senate look like after 2020? (there are 22 Republicans at risk vs 12 Democrats).
I don't see the point in giving tRump ammunition to play the victim -- 'It's just politics! Wimpy Blues hate me!' Which of course tRump and Republicans will say anyway. But the more obvious it is that it originated with them, the better.
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