Not to mention, we'd have pensions, and/or Social Security would be fully funded. Probably overfunded.

My union lost our pensions just before I was hired in (that is, those who hired in before me had pensions, all of us new guys from 20 years and less get only a 401k). We were told "The 401k is better than a pension!" Then why do the politicians all have both?

Now we have a program where, unless you opt out each year, 1% more of your paycheck automatically gets diverted to the 401k each November, until eventually it's 15% of your pay. Sounds great to the people who set it up. I imagine they all put 15% into the stock market. My problem is, at my level, I need all of my paycheck for right now. I can barely afford the 3% that my employers make me put in.

Paul's 5th Law: The wealthier you are, the more you think everyone should be invested in the stock market...

I don't track her, but everything I've heard her say is correct...

I have always said that everyone should have to work at least one shitty service job as a teenager, to learn not to treat service people like they are beneath them.
This is maybe even more true of politicians - they should have to experience some real-life challenges.

Let’s not get caught up in the whole bartending thing. Her point is that many of our politicians, those “representing” us and most of those in the White House, have never been in a position where they had to make ends meet. They can’t understand our issues, no matter what they say! They simply don’t have the framework to...

AOC is correct.

If Ivanka ever does become a bartender, it's a bar I'd avoid. I try to avoid people who make me want to barf.

If your hands are dirty your money is clean.
100% correct.
You can empathise , but nothing teaches you better.

Yep.

Yup but they won't because they are too self involved

Totally agree.

I spent two years bartending while I was going to college. It was hard work, but it taught me to deal with all sorts of people, manage my time, remember a lot of things all at the same time, and most of all, it humbled me because no matter how hard I worked, my income was at the mercy of others....even doing the best job, I was often stiffed out of a tip.

I think when you do labor of any kind, not that I am dissing desk jobs that require more technical/brain stuff, you do appreciate what others have to do for a living. It gave me an insight that I never forgot....

Yeah, I think if Ivanka and most politicians/corporate/inherited wealth people had to get out and do a job many of our citizens are doing day in and day out, they would be better people at least...

I think she's right...

A agree. There is a serious disconnect between those governing and those being governed. The current salary for a US Senator is $174,000. I’ve been managing a factory for almost 30 years and don’t make any where near that!