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A team of 20 specialist surgeons, anaesthetists and nurses have just operated to separate 2 year old conjoined twins at Great Ormond Street Hospital in London. The twins were joined at the crown of their heads and were never able to see each other’s faces. The surgeons have successfully separated them after 50 hours of surgery which is wonderful news. They are from Pakistan and have been brought here because there are no surgeons in Pakistan skilful enough at this type of specialist surgery. The NHS could not possibly bear the burden of the cost of this surgery and luckily an anonymous donor stepped forward to pay for it.

This is of course a good news story, and we can only be relieved for the children and their mother that all has gone well. However, I was struck that when interviewed prior to the operation, the mother whilst saying she trusted the doctors, was at pains to say “I always look to god, he will make everything great”! Presumably ignoring the fact that firstly, on that reckoning, we have to assume that god created the twins in a conjoined condition (a defect on his part), secondly the skill of the surgeons was the determining factor of whether this operation was a success, not prayer....or there would have been no need to travel to London to have the operation, and thirdly....without the compassion of an anonymous benefactor who paid for it, her girls would still be living in Pakistan leading a difficult, and probably short life. Allah did nothing to help....human skill and kindness did.

Marionville 10 July 16
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A clear God versus science contest. Unfortunately science cannot set out to win this battle just get the twins more Human for their own sakes.

The surgeons who performed this amazing feat have set up a new fund...a charity into which they are asking the public to donate for any future operations of a similar nature.

@Marionville Good idea.

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Exactly....they cannot/will not see beyond the gawd thing.

Indoctrination.

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Just imagine the skill involved. Every single blood vessel, bone and brain tissue will have to be delicately separated. I cannot even comprehend how difficult it must be, and I am a nurse! Skill, professionalism and integrity. No god required.

Amisja Level 8 July 16, 2019

No room in that already overcrowded theatre!

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I think it would have had to have been C-Section.

It was....in Peshawar General Hospital.

@Marionville I can't imagine them surviving a vaginal delivery. And ultrasound is common even in poorer regions now. So it would have been obvious early that a medical emergency was happening.

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Here's a very funny clip on people thanking God, after medical success.
God is not blamed for any misery in the world and given credit for all that is good.
Thank God for this comedian who nails it.

Athena Level 8 July 16, 2019

Precisely my point!

@Marionville

Yes! Hope you enjoy how hilarious this is.

@Athena I did! 😂

Love that comic’s set.

😂😂😂😂

This guy is a fucking riot!!

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Does anyone know how they were born? - natural or caesarian?

C. Section, at Peshawar General Hospital.

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Twenty doctors over 50 hours and a donor to pay for it all.

I wish them well.

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Those were exactly my thoughts when I read that news story on Sunday, as I boarded the Dieppe/Newhaven ferry.
I also wished there were some way to communicate my thoughts to the BBC newsroom.

Petter Level 9 July 16, 2019

Hope you’re enjoying your trip.

@Marionville I am indeed. Now in Banstead, staying with my son.
Tomorrow I shall attend the annual luncheon of my old regiment.

@Petter Salutations then!

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