Asylum seekers and other immigrants approach U.S. embassies and consulates all over the world. There are no favors to the rich and educated.

There are a few answers to your argument:

1. I agree that when you want apply for F1 (student), H1 (worker), B1 (tourist) and L1 (business branch associate) visas, qualifications and justifications are required.
2. In fact, there are more stringer document and qualifications required
3. However the majority of all those visa applications are rejected. A very view among the pool are selected. They also have a quota.
4. It is a false argument that it is hard to reach U.S. Consulates and Embassies, it is not true
5. Currently, people from Ethiopia, Eritrea, India, Pakistan and other middle Eastern countries are coming through Mexico at the Southern borders and joining the hordes. It is a misuse of the system and taking a disadvantage of American kindness to pick a fancy country in the world of your choice and claim asylum

My point is for illegally crowding at the Southern borders, claim fake reasons, renting of children to claim priority in the line, claim domestic abuse as a reason just to get into the U.S. is wrong and Americans supporting illegal immigration is unpatriotic.

I support and in fact, encourage legal immigration. That is how America has got the best from the world and it should continue that.

Undocumented illegal immigrant population has ballooned to over 11 million in spite of Reagan agreeing with democrats in 1986 in passing a bill that included legalizing over 3 million undocumented immigrants then. This cannot continue and democrats crying out to legalize them is pandering for votes. Those democrats do not deserve my vote.

@St-Sinner I agree that there are abusers...and I agree that the system is broken...I do not agree that we need to give up our ideals for those who truly seek a better life and apply legally...I do think we can't go backwards and need to grandfather in the dreamers brought here as children and are tangled in this mess created by others and not themselves...they have proven their contribution and do pay taxes, have no criminal record, etc.

I will support anyone other than tRump because I think he is the one who divides us on this one issue when in reality, we are in line with the policies, not the rhetorical spewing of hatred and fear.

@thinktwice

I agree with all except allowing DACA to stay legally. Children pay for parents actions around the world every day, every minute somewhere. That is what parenting is. This will happen again and happen again. This is not the first time. Reagan legalized 3 million undocumented immigrants. That has risen to 11 million now. When will it stop?

There are millions of children around the world that are affected by U.S. policies and actions. So should we airlift them because they are suffering for no fault of their own? Should own it up? I can give you 300 to 550 children right now? What will we do?

This nation is built every day by law abiding and tax paying citizens who respect the rule of law. It is not up to a few activists to give that away to special interest industry built around the Southern borders.

@St-Sinner These are young adults who have lived here all their lives...it is cruel to send them back to a place where they have no culture that is familiar...yes, there will always be children in need, but they are not already in this country. We can't fix it all, but we can take care of these kids, many of whom I know and have mentored and trained as techs in the computer field. I will protect them as if they are my own children...they are law biding and they pay taxes (I know, I pay them...and it is legal for me, unlike tRump and his illegal workers)....

@thinktwice Illegality should not be rewarded. Period.

@St-Sinner and yet we have people who support a president and an administration that have broken several laws such as not obeying subpoenas, the Hatch Act, the emoluments clauses, etc.

So, you are advocating selective breaking of the law...period...as well, how do you know the illegals are breaking the law if they have not been evaluated yet? They are due their day in court...

@thinktwice

1. Catch him if he has broken laws. We have a full democratic process and force of the law to pursue it. I think he should be prosecuted
2. I support Trump fully on immigration because he is doing a good job. He is not a politically correct president. He has taken on big lobbies, special interests, activists, a big noise, lots of criticism, negative writing and publicity against him .... all that were considered sacred cows for vote pandering for half a century and more. He is the first one to rise up and do something about it against all odds.This is not easy
3. American voters knew full well about his indiscretions, his lying, his racism and still voted him in the office in 2016. All of his vices including his Access Hollywood tape were on the ballot in 2016. People know more about his lying, cheating and racism that before and I believe Trump will re-elected to office in 2020.
4. Obama-turned-Trump voters have said many times, we are not electing a priest, we are electing president. So, no. Your argument of Trump being all bad things does not work. A good character is not required to be president. What he does for the nation and its people is more important. One such voter also said, I would not have a beer with him but I am going to vote for him.
5. Don't be a blind Trump hater. He is not the first president to have a bad character and break laws. I have said before, John Kennedy's indiscretions are well known including having sex with White House interns is known. Books have been written about it. Our another hero Bill Clinton, the cigar, the dress, the oval office and Lewinsky are in the recent memory. So, don't lecture people on Trump's vices.
6. I want Trump do good for the nation. Not for the world, not for illegal immigrants. I want him to fix problems and do well on the economy. He has done well on both.
7. Trump is not a perfect or even a good human being but he is working out as good president. That is all American voters and I want.
8. I know fully well that progressives and Democrats will not see anything good... nothing at all in what Trump has done or will ever do. Conservatives and Republicans did not see anything good in Clinton and Obama either. That is why the middle 5% to 10% moderates and independents in the middle decide elections. I believe they will re-elect Trump in 2020
9. It is best to ignore the noise of hatred against Trump here because that is all we do day in and day out. We are not capable of recognizing good AND bad. We either hate everything on the other side or love everything on our side.

@St-Sinner You can post all of your bullet points all day long. You follow your moral compass and I will follow mine. You are arrogant in your assumption that others here have not done their research or are basing their decisions on just this site or a biased news station.

You use the term "we" freely and yet most here have seen how you are indeed not part of the "we"...your ingratiating remarks to placate by pretending that you dislike the man and that we should overlook his character has been noted by many here.

You ignore that bad actions are noted for all past presidents, but with the exception of Nixon, most have been human foibles that can be overlooked. The core of this one is bad...he is a functional illiterate and does not know any literary, historical or cultural reference except that which is spoon fed to him...it is not hate as much as just plain not qualified.

He won the electoral college but that does not mean he won over the majority of the people...more than 50% do not want him, like him, agree that he is doing a great job...

I would rather side with people I respect in the world of education, politics, business when I formulate my opinions and when so many of us are on the same page about him and come to our conclusions independent of each other, I think we are just as fervent in working to get him out of office.

@thinktwice
Please try to let me know what good things Trump has done. It can tell me how you think with your moral compass or pure hatred to see just the negatives.

A deserving individual who follows a legal path will always open doors. No matter how poor, his hard work and honesty will pay off. I was poor, my visa rejected 4 times, I waited for 5 years, my wife waited after marriage for 4 years although I was a citizen, we produced tons of documents, we waited, we gave medical tests, we produced all kinds certificates and proofs. We have no complains about the wait and respect the rule of law. But not once it crossed our minds to circumvent the law and lie.

But when you do not have integrity, you will lie and claim poverty, and try every way to find an easy route. People supporting them should think about where they stand on this and if their support and energies are for illegal immigration or legal immigration. It is important because it is the value system that we pass on to the next generation. A lot law abiding and honest Americans work to build this country. It is not right for a few to give it away to illegality and accepting illegal immigrants while we are denying legal immigration applications for thousands and millions of applicants at the U.S. Consulates around the world every day.

@St-Sinner Interesting
What type of Visa did you enter on? I do have some experience with the immigration system through my marriage. There is not much of a path for people in poverty. Never has been and Trump wants to end what there is.If someone is needing asylum waiting 4 years in place isn't an option. Very basic knowledge of our history in Central America will show that we are responsible for alot of what is going on.

@St-Sinner Under what circumstances did you come to the USA? Were you under duress? Was your life horrific in the country you came from? I was 13 by the time I was naturalized...the wait did not affect me at all because I was safe, had food, shelter, school, etc.

There is a huge difference in 3rd world immigration and 1st world immigration....to me, dying of poverty or being killed by violence of war or gangs over rides a lot of other reasons for immigration, such as wanting the spoils of the USA...I would rather save a life than have someone be able to open a gas station/restaurant/hotel/small business for capitalist reasons...

@thinktwice

1. If I was under duress, I would not travel to the U.S. for asylum, I would seek a country close by where I would be safe. Planning to come to the U.S. legally is harder than hitting the Southern borders here from Mexico.
2. The legal immigration process is rough, frustrating, very long and a positive outcome is never guaranteed even after you comply with all rules and regulations as required
3. If I were really in horrific conditions and afraid, choosing a fancy country on the other side of the Earth is the last thing I would do. Because I do not have the luxury to plan for comfort at that stage. Saving my life and parking myself securely somewhere with limited resources is what I would do. In the cases of immigrants from Central America, a similar place would be Mexico, not the U.S.
4. I will not accept any excuse for trying to enter the U.S. illegally no matter what your reason is

So no, there is no comparison between what immigrants are doing at the Southern border because I would not do what many of them are doing which is illegality. No, I would not lie, fake and cry out loud of injustice when I do not comply with the law. But a good try.

@MsAl

Every human being has a path of honesty and complying with the law. Every one on this Earth. Don't try to sell me illegality and lying. I will not buy it.

@St-Sinner I agree that if we can declare Mexico a safe haven, that it should be the first place to escape immediate danger....so far, it is not deemed such.

So, as a participant in the world, we should not help with refugees from Syria, Vietnam, etc. even if they had to travel to get out...

I don't think anyone is arguing that we need to make the process legal...we are arguing that strong arm tactics and the implied "no brown people need apply" attitude has to go...and that we have to even treat those that are not doing things correctly with humanity until it is determined that they need to go elsewhere...a wrong does not merit another wrong

@St-Sinner Yes but you are claiming these people have a legal path. You are using yourself as an example to refute my claim that people in poverty from Central America don't have a legal path. What kind of Visa did you use?

@thinktwice @St-Sinner Mexico is very dangerous as well, especially due to the drug trade and waterfall of illegal weapons coming from here to supply the cartel. We are a superpower controlling and taking advantage of Central America since the 50s. They are tiny countries that don't have the means to defend against that. We do have a responsibility to help those people.

@MsAl

1. A bogus argument again. Mexico is not dangerous. I have visited Mexico City and other cities many times. It is not dangerous enough to leave all, travel all the way to the U.S. Millions of people have been staying there for decades, I have talked to local people and they have told me that only certain areas are dangerous. largely Mexico is a good place to live
2. Millions of American retirees live in Mexico today
3. The U.S. is destabilizing people in over 150 countries in the world. Would be willing to pay taxes and support policies to airlift over 500 million to a Billion people and bring them to the U.S. That would be 3 to 4 times the current population of the U.S. today. Do we have room and resources?

All these are worn out and weak arguments and will not sell. The United States will not tolerate immigrants swamping the Southern borders to overwhelm the system and to attempt to enter illegally.

@MsAl
Since you are so interested in helping, please make an effort to visit the American Immigration website and look up the information you need. Just like activist lawyers try to find legal loopholes to argue cases for illegal immigrants , they can certainly find legal ways to help. American Immigration has plenty of resources online that can offer very very helpful information. But I admit it will take some some sincere efforts. It is not as easy as coming to the Southern borders, crying wolf and asking for asylum.

@St-Sinner The highly isolated resorts, which I have visited often, are indeed safe for Americans...not necessarily for the people who live in the country. The expats that live there are also able to live there well and out of poverty. The view we see of Mexico is privileged...

@thinktwice
I people I met were not privileged. They are hard working Mexicans who are very proud of their country and their government. They have made a life for themselves by following the laws and rules.

You view of the issue is not broad enough. You say you know Mexico and gave a verdict that all places expats live are privileged, you say everything Trump does is wrong, ... none of these is true. You say illegal immigrants be admitted. Does not that sounds extreme to you?

@St-Sinner What part of "I don't necessarily disagree with his policies but I disagree with his attitude and methodology" do you not comprehend? What part of "We do not know they are illegal yet until they have a day in court" do you not understand?

I have met and employed DACA young adults and you dismiss my experience and their stories...they also followed the rules as adults when they had no control as children.

Does that not sound extreme to you?

@thinktwice

I made it clear that DACA must return to the countries of their parents. Children pay for the mistakes of their parents around the world every minute somewhere. They can return to their countries of origin and apply. Their applications will be considered. Insisting that we give an amnesty again is the Extreme Left position.

I believe immigrants at the Southern border should return to their countries of origin and wait. I am ok with the Remain in Mexico policy. They have to stop crowding the Southern border and overwhelm the system

We had amnesty in 1986 by legalizing 3 million undocumented immigrants. Now we again have 11 million. This cannot continue. If we do, this number will be 30 million in 10 to 20 years and you will make the same argument about DACA and refugees etc.

@St-Sinner yeah...you made it quite clear...and I am done

@St-Sinner I've been through the system for hy ex husband. This stuff on the website is fluff meant to say they are helping and pass the blame. Like I said there is no legal path (other than assylum) for most of these people. You've made some long worded responses but still have not given me any evidence to the contrary.

As far as the legality goes I'm more interested in the morality. Hitler was on the right side of the law. His detractors were not. It's a tired argument but it's true.

@MsAl
Do you know how many leaders around the world are compared to Hitler? Trump, Erdogan, Putin, Modi (India) who are democratically elected leaders who re-elected by their people? Trump is likely to get re-elected. So, no, this comparison will not work. Find something better.

I believe every human being who is not in an immediate danger of death has a legal path to American visa. If you can eat a meal, take a bath and sleep at night, you have a legal path. Possibly more than one. Use your energies on legal immigration where millions of deserving applicants are languishing around the world and following the law.

@St-Sinner "I believe every human being who is not in an immediate danger of death has a legal path to American visa. If you can eat a meal, take a bath and sleep at night, you have a legal path. "

This doesn't make sense and you have given me zero evidence that it is true.

It's clear we won't agree on this issue and Ive made my point. Im gonna go talk about other stuff somewhere else.

@MsAl
If a person has no intention to do the right thing and insist on pursuing a short cut to the goal without a regard to the rule of law cannot be convinced. That's how it works.

Millions of people around the world are lining up outside U.S. Embassies who have plenty of difficulties and miseries too. It i just that you do not hear about them in papers. There is no special interest industry built around them that can print stories in papers and raise hue and cry every day. But trust me there are suffering but yet honest people in this world.

Immigrants does not only mean Central American and Mexico only immigrants where we all are focused on.

So prosecutors and judges have no empathy in their jobs. is that what you are saying?

If I was really escaping and scared, I would go to the nearest safe place. That is what an escaping person does. A fearful and escaping person does not take a thousand mile journey. He would seek a place close by and hide.

If I were there, I would go to Mexico where the language also is not a problem..

@Bobby9 They migrated so long ago - that I don't quite think we want to bring Native Americans into this particular argument. They were the first people here.

@St-Sinner A fearful and escaping person does what they must.

People left all areas of Europe in the belly of ships and headed for America with very little to their names - arriving looking for work. I don't see this as any different.
Some did not make the passage.

Which border would you head for? Mexico or America?

I know which one I would pick.

I'm not saying prosecutors and judges don't have empathy - I'm saying you don't. How desperate do these people have to be - to be doing what they are? This isn't a pleasure trip. People are dying trying to get here.

BTW basic economics - more people equals more jobs. Unless we keep shipping work to other countries. Something that's been happening at an alarming rate.

Yes our government needs an overhaul.

@Bobby9
Did they come illegally? Did they sneak into the border illegally?

@Bobby9
I think the law of limitations has passed.
If they came from Germany, Trump's ancestors possibly knew them.

I am quoting from Trump's recent executive order that asylum seekers must seek asylum or apply in the first country they pass through. It is not you or I saying. It is the government position. Please read right.

U.S. has created unstable conditions in many countries. How many people will you airlift from Afghanistan? The doctor who helped the U.S. catch and kill Osama Bin Laden was put in jail, was rotting there and is still languishing in Pakistan after 6 years. There are at least over 100 million people who need help because of U.S. actions. How will you airlift and speak for? They did not break any law, they are not overwhelming at the border and they are not lying.

@St-Sinner Ah ha! So you were quoting Trump's order! It did sound a lot like Trump. It all can be summarily dismissed then.

@dare2dream
I cannot cite a government decision?

When I said the government said this, I am wrong and when you state your opinion, you are right?

@St-Sinner Of couse you may cite a government decision.

When you say the government said this you are neither right nor wrong but merely repeating the xenophobic policy.

@dare2dream
Everything Clinton and Obama did was wrong to the Far Right and everything Bush and Trump did is wrong to the Far left. No matter what. I have not read even one - not one action by Trump administration in my time on the platform that any one has seen a value in. However, I have read plenty about how Hillary was competent and how much she deserved to win. They hardly mentioned she intentionally made 20,000 e-mails go missing but she was still good for them.

That is the nature of bias and non-objective thinking and you have it.

Progressives will never accept your story and will call you an extreme Far Right Winger who talks Trump's talking points.

Do you agree?

@St-Sinner Yes, and it’s to ..all our determinants. I’ve no animosity toward those seeking what we have. But if we give it away, we will no longer have it.

@Varn
I do not have animosity either, the police do not have animosity against thieves and robbers either, not the judges and prosecutors. We are all talking about holding up the rule of law.

@OwlInASack Being there’s no such thing as ‘a law,’ only it’s ‘final interpretation,’ what details my neighbor felt free to share were appalling. The aggressive abuse of our regulations regarding immigration on the part of these West Coast attorneys must be typical for those ‘offering such services.’

@OwlInASack
That is possible. is it not also possible that what the government is claiming about abuse of our law is possible? Why you as one person's experience in one place with one group should be universal?

...and, the name-calling..

He appears to have some on-the-ground experience, to me. Allowing, then rewarding eventual citizenship to 22 million illegal aliens within our nation, after their depletion of our social services, consumption of jobs, suppressed wages and their burden on our public schools systems… But then who’d know better than someone on the opposite side of the planet

@OwlInASack It’s a stark situation, calling for drastic measures … because serious measures had not been implemented or enforced..

The reality is what we perceive it to be. On the ground and from the West Coast (of the United States of America), I know of what I speak.

And no, it is not sanctioned by ‘the US Government,’ it’s an Administrative enforcement that was promised from the beginning of this president’s announcement for office. It works as a rallying tool as it’s both silently and openly understood by most US citizens.

There’s plenty of irony regarding this POS President, his gold-digging wife included.. This is a winning strategy for him, so he’s sticking with it. ‘The Wall’ was simplistic BS, this is doable and necessary to curb the increasing numbers of economic opportunists who will continue to follow.

Actually, this issue has brought to light some ugly features of those I’d once admired … and I’m not new to it. But if others care to demean me for my stance on this issue … it will make the trump presidency more tolerable..

...hadn’t bothered to look your residency up - but what? Yet another foreigner taking a cheap shot from afar..? Shame on both of you

@Varn Hello there. I think you really need to look into how economy works and it has nothing to do with migrants stealing jobs or depleting social services. Back to school for you. By the way I have lived in different countries under different social and political structures so yes I do know how things work, I also know what is best for all of us, even the 1%.

@Jolanta, @OwlInASack Gets down to why is serious action necessary, not ‘what will the critics say.’ If the critics are from within, that’s one thing, this is still a Democracy. If not, quite another. I’d say mind your business, not ours.

Also - where are your countries..? Why are they not swooping in to provide new homes & opportunities to these economic opportunists? This is a world-wide problem, no doubt the result of overpopulation. Or might we blame Spain… expecting them to clean up the New World messes they made..?

Plenty of reasons, but until I see ‘your nations’ opening their borders to any & all for whatever reasons or desires ..I must take your comments as the hypocritical dribble they are…

@Varn @Jolanta, @OwlInASack

1. Fully agree that a serious action is necessary because no president in the last 40 to 50 years showed courage to act upon the problem
2. Reagan legalized immigration of 3 million undocumented immigrants and claimed at the time and the United States will claim control of our borders. We did not. This undocumented immigrant population has ballooned to 11 million now and it will continue to grow.
3. Both Democrats, Republicans and presidents kicked the can down the road and did not address the problem fearing a backlash or thought pandering to Hispanics would get them votes
4. The fact today is that the majority of Hispanics and legal immigrants from other countries inside the United States is against illegal immigration piling up at our Southern borders. They agree with Trump.
5. We know that there is a big special interests industry built and operating at the Southern borders that includes lawyers, activists, vendors, journalists, reporters and publications who make a living of continuous immigration hordes knocking the border for years. Why would they lose a way of living?
6. All know and admit that there are some legitimate asylum seekers who are drowned out among illegal seekers.
7. All asylum seekers from Mexico should be separated and vetted out for approvals. All Central American seekers must be denied and sent back
8. DACA residents must return to their parents' countries and apply at U.S. Consulates for approvals. They must get in the line.

@St-Sinner Thank you. I’m done with the ..aliens above. They’ve No Standing ~

Cathy, I'm lost, I said though I knew she was sleeping
And I'm empty and aching and I don't know why
Counting the cars on the New Jersey Turnpike
They've all come to look for America
All come to look for America
All come to look for America

American Administration is saying asylum seekers from Central America do not have to choose a fancy country to want to live in. Mexico is a large adjacent country. They should request asylum there.

I will give you over 500 million around the world who certainly want to come to America to make a better living. That is economic migrants in your term. Do we have room and the heart to bring them?

Slavery was legal and founding fathers owned slaves. So, what should we do?

@OwlInASack
I am keeping the door open for merit-based legal immigrants like me and have done work to help. But I do not support lying, misusing and abusing the system by overwhelming the border.

You did not read my comments.

@OwlInASack
See, that is what I said. Nothing will convince you.

The U.S. system is overwhelmed by design and the border agents are doing their best. The system was put in place during Obama. I did not see any news coverage or outcry then. But the U.S. will do everything to do it better. The overwhelming at the border was done by design. All of the reasons of asylum I listed have been published. They are not talking points of the right. I am not in to one way hatred.

The asylum seeking crowd includes many white skinned people. Do not use the old racism card everywhere. It does not work when it does not fit the situation. This has to do with illegality, not the color of the skin. I am sure tomorrow someone is going to accuse Trump of MeToo at the border.

@St-Sinner Show me the images of "white skinned people" being put in cages because of this "crisis". Otherwise your comment is nothing but a naive attempt at hiding the obvious racism involved with facile excuses.

@redbai
So white skin and blond hair will do? I am brown myself

@OwlInASack
No but I can have empathy and I am careful about what I say. What I saying here is the truth. Read published reports. But when you are not objective, you will never be convinced.

@OwlInASack
You will never see a value in stopping illegal immigration. There is no amount of convincing that will change your mind. You will not even accept the facts on the Homeland Security's own website.

@St-Sinner I am even surprised that you actually know the word empathy, did someone point it out to you, because you don't have one ounce of it in your whole body.

@Jolanta Are you an embodiment of empathy?

If you are ready for calling names, I am ready.

@St-Sinner I asked for pictures of white skinned people from foreign countries in cages as they are doing along the southern border. You either have reading comprehension issues or can't provide what was requested to back up your claims. The color of your skin is totally irrelevant and another thing you've provided no evidence to demonstrate it's veracity. But I understand. You're making a pathetic attempt to change the subject because you cannot demonstrate that what you claim is true.

@OwlInASack

May be not to you for sure, but in Obama years it would have been. That is how to goes.

The immigration applications for asylum do not mention any of the grounds for immigration that you mentioned.

Shhh, They don't want you to tell anyone the truth.

@St-Sinner Really? You've read them and can confirm that they aren't escaping violence but have some petty selfish reason for coming? That's impressive if true, but somehow I don't think it's true.

@redbai
My assessment is based on published news reports. All applications are being reviewed and valid claims will be given due considerations. Liars and criminals will be thrown out.

@OwlInASack
Scan Google for news articles.

@OwlInASack
If you are a hater, trust me, you will not see them. That is the problem with the far left and far right. Far Left sees everything wrong, and Far Right sees everything right these days.

The nation will decide in 2020 if the nation's immigration policies are correct or not. Trump believes that the moderates and independents who supported him 2016 will again support him 2020. They will ignore all the noise created by special interests industry of lawyers, activists, Far left, and vendors who depend on border immigration for a living.

@OwlInASack
No, because I am convinced that you know how to get to the internet and read.

@OwlInASack
I am telling you that there is another side to your story but you do not want to agree. American voters gave a decisive mandate to Trump in 2016 when ranted against illegal immigrants in rallies and they will elect him again in 2020.

American voters will decide who is right in 2020 again. They will not listen to the special interest of lawyers, activists, Far left, vendors etc. some of whom make a living off it.

@St-Sinner I think you are confused on the mandate. Trump received no mandate for anything by the voters. It was given to HRC by a 3 million vote margin but the presidency was given to Trump by the electoral college.

@OwlInASack Something like that or may be similar, is what Far Right said about Obama, Clinton.

Everyone has to decide where to oppose and where to recognize value. This platform is either Progressives and Conservatives. Just in the United States only the 10% in the middle are moderates and independents who will see value on both sides and decide elections.

I am a moderate who does not like the vast majority of what Trump talks and does but I recognize his work on immigration, trade agreements, standing up China and its bullying, contributions to NATO etc. No one in progressives will ever admit there is anything good in there.

@St-Sinner Published news reports that you cannot provide as evidence you're not just making up lies to back up your assumptions. In case you haven't noticed, your word alone as to the "proper" actions of the Border Patrol in the face of mounting evidence that they are nothing but a bunch of racist punks fails.