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I think most people just might be deluded enough into believing we will actually survive a Trump Presidency. I think we may actually be fucked already, we just don't know it yet.

JesseBoren 7 July 24
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it doesn't matter who is elected. you national debt is so high & interest rates so low that your pension systems, especially state are completely Fcked. you are headed for a not gentle decline.

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I share your sentiments. Trump would like to stay and he says the Constitution allows him to do whatever he wants. Now all he has to do is tell others that 3 times His GOP that likes to stay in power already believes him.

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A lot of damage has been done in just about every area you can think. But we can heal if we can VOTE HIM THE FUCK OUT!

There are a lot of people out there that have seen that his lies are just that... Lies! Look at Harley... The company was a Trump golden child with management mugging for photos. Now, with a nonsense trade war going on... Harley profits are down 20%... He lost everyone at Harley! He's losing the farmers too.

I don't see where there are enough remnants of the KKK to get him elected again. That's all he has as a base now. Well.. That and evangelicals that apparently will look past any sin to get conservative judges appointed and Roe-V-Wade overturned.

The USA WILL eventually flame out... But I don't think it will be Trump who sticks in the last knife.... But lawd knows he certainly opened the door.

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Of course the USA will survive, even if there is another 5 years of trump

You are most likely correct but the fact so many of you refuse to acknowledge the possibility he will not act normally is kinda proving my point if I had one. I was really just drunk playing around here not trying to make predictions. He has been testing our system since taking office, so far it's holding better than I thought it would. A few more pawns like Barr in key places though that could change. I don't take any of this speculation seriously at all. We will just have to wait and see what happens. There are always things that will happen that are unpredictable.

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If Trump is actually re-elected, then yes we are most certainly fucked. There will be nothing to stand in the way of our transition from a democratic republic to a theocratic plutocracy, and the western world will likely follow the United States down in to the pit of a new dark age.

Even if people are smart enough to bounce Trump, his cohorts and everything they stand for, the tangled mess left behind is going to be massive in scope. Our first order of business will have to be re-establishing ties with our allies, regaining some sort of handle on despots like Kim Jung Un and Putin, and reuniting families separated at the border by ICE and re-establishing common sense immigration policies which allow entry for people seeking shelter and employment while keeping out human traffickers and terrorists.

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You'll survive it - you have many intelligent and very resourceful people in the US, after all. How long it will take to recover, on the other hand, is anyone's guess - we'll need to wait until he's out of the White House and his successor's administration can start estimating just how much of a mess he leaves behind him before we can even begin to say how long it'll take.

Jnei Level 8 July 24, 2019
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