"As he has made very clear, Richard Dawkins would far rather have dealings with an honest-to-God Fundamentalist than with anyone who would make an argument for the accommodation of religion by science lovers. There is a particular place in his hell for those like Stephen Jay Gould and Michael Ruse who give any ground to the enemy. We are charter members of the Neville Chamberlain school of thinkers, so named after the pusillanimous British prime minister who tried to do business with Adolf Hitler."
(Michael Ruse, in "Atheism. What everyone needs to know" )
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Yeah, I like Dawkins also. He's pretty smart and cool.
greyeyed123
Level 7
Aug 17, 2019
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Just a load of rhetoric blurb to me but my observation is the absurd cliche that is trotted out by speakers wishing to place fear into the hearts of Christian believers: this ‘special place in hell’. It’s always given a context as if it has some divine authority
I can’t find it’s original reference and all I can imagine is that it is a nod to The Divine Comedy.
Any ideas anyone?
Geoffrey51
Level 8
Aug 17, 2019
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That could be it! Maybe put them in level nine, the worst one at the bottom where the traitors are, or ask God to create an even worse one for Christian sympathisers. I think Dante got the idea of the levels of Hell from the Muslims.
Richard is wrong, I think. Religion's power is diminished but it isn't going away. I think accommodation is needed for two things: the ecology because the religious think the solution to ecology lies in God's kingdom, and the Western world isn't taking up humanism as the alternative to faith values.
brentan
Level 8
Aug 17, 2019
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I do not see why some atheist see the need to refer to gurus like Dawkins and others. I do not see the need to look to others to tell me what to do. That is what happens in most religions. To me, my atheist is a personal matter, and I have no need to try to escape my freedom.
wordywalt
Level 9
Aug 17, 2019
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What I escaped is the "freedom" that religion thinks it offers. It was only then that I had real freedom.
This guy hates RD 
And anyone who does not see the value of religions in science . Ok ! Apparently thou , he is not big fan of homosexuals either , he can study them , write book about them , but the negative reviews About his attitude are juuust great ! 
Even Freethinkers have leaders.
@dare2dream I have read widely on many topics and issues and have studied multiple disciplines. I admire some thinkers and writers and have incorporated some of their thoughts into my own. But, I do not consider any of them to be my "leader."
@wordywalt Nor do I.
If atheism is ever to become a movement for secular progress and freedom, it will need to coalesce around leaders or it will fail like the Occupy Wallstreet movement which was leaderless and a totally flat organisation (disorganisation).
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