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There is a highly vocal group of deniers of the existence of Jesus. But frankly, they come across like most conspiracy theorists, overpassionate in their cause, unwilling to compromise, and (a sure sign) very touchy when you question their credentials.
In the end, it makes no difference whether this Jesus really existed in flesh and blood or whether he is a collective fiction.

Matias 8 Aug 18
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If you've ever read Richard Carrier or David Fitzgerald's books on the subject, it'll make you wonder how anyone can believe there ever was anything other than a mythical Jesus.

I've listened to Richard Carrier a lot on YouTube. Extremely good credentials, and he is very convincing.

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As an agnostic, I don't know if he existed.
But indications are at the very most he might have been an eloquent yet very mortal man. Maybe a Essene or a Nazarene. Nobody knows for sure.
Other indications are the Roman Flavian dynasty created the New Testament.
Maybe someday the truth will be known.

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Gilgamesh was real, but there is no evidence of him actually fighting the Bull of Heaven.

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Christ mythicism is based on the available evidence.
It doesn't matter if you don't believe it, unless of course you would like to believe as many true things and as few false things as possible.
From pre Pauline Christian doctrine to Paul's narrative to the gospels to the apocrypha, mythicism considers all forms of evidence about a Christ. Including Tacitus and Josephus entries.
Vocal? You've got to be joking.

Snert Level 4 Aug 22, 2019
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If jesus was real, then the person claiming so, has to prove it. If you claim jesus was not real, then you have to prove it.

What are you claining jesus to be? I don't understand your question unless you define the terms.

@Snert If you make a claim about Jesus then you have to prove it.

@xenoview define Jesus, please. that is what I am asking of you. Ahistoricity is the default postion.

@Snert We have no evidence that jesus ever exist. So you can't describe someone who doesn't exist due to a lack of evidence.

@xenoview yeah the evidence points to myth, what else do you want?

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I believe he was heavily fictionalized but I believe a Jesus figure MIGHT have existed.

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I think Jesus did exist and he was a metaphysic and hypnotist. He performed what were seen as miracles but nowadays is considered mind control. His stories were embellished and took on a life of its own kinda like how big the fish was that broke your fishing line. People believed in the myth until Constantine saw he could use the story to control the masses

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I certainly do not deny the existence of Jesus. He is an historical figure. What I do deny is the structure the whgite MEN built around him to keep others in submission, poverty and misery. It serves only the powerful.

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It does not matter to me whether there was ever a flesh and blood Jesus. If there was, he was just another man and was used for the basis of phony claims based on legends. If no man existed, he was fabricated from the same legends. If there was a man, he was so unimportant at the time that nothing was written about him.

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I don’t deny the existence of a man who was called Jesus. I simply don’t believe that he was a deity of any kind any more than I believe that Sidartha Gautama, the Buddha, was. Both historic figures, both teaching ethics in their own way and both having had a massive and beneficial effect on humanity in their lifetimes and ever since.

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