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Do you say the pledge of allegiance, when called to do so in a public setting? If so, do you include the words "...under god?" If not, do you stand or do you remain seated if you are already seated? I myself stand and pledge my allegiance because I want folks to know that I--a liberal, agnostic, Democrat--am invested in making this country as good as it can be, but I don't say "under God."

GarytheGondolier 6 Aug 24
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The Supreme Court in 1943 said the Pledge’s purpose is to bring children into the political culture, for which I thank the Jehovah Witnesses, so I remain seated and say nothing. Hey, I’m 8 damn 8.

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I omit under god

bobwjr Level 10 Aug 29, 2019
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Yes I'm will say the pledge & I purposely & unabashedly hold my head high & keep my mouth very shut during the "under god" part. I wish someone would say something.

Sally, I too for years purposely and unabashedly, et cetera. I finally said something in a Toastmasters club whose (mostly war veterans, like me) members pledged. I told them what the Supreme Court said (see my post above), and added what Paul in 1 Corinthians 11 said, “I have given up childish things.” They almost unanimously agreed to my motion to stop pledging.

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I stand to avoid conflict.

I do not pledge to a piece of cloth. I pledge to the constitution. One of the most important human documents. It is our privilege to provide it protection.

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As a teacher I do respect my flag and country(though not the current government), and I say all of it except the under god part. I’m not sure how it got under the radar of separation of church/state

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I stood recited the archaic pledge but instead of God I said good and no one seemed to care.

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I stand with my hands at my sides and do not recite.

Do you need to where you are living?

@JackPedigo Never! But back when I lived in the US and the pledge was bein recited, I stood and that was the extent of my involvement.

@BajaSusana I wonder if other countries do this imbecilic thing?

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I was in school before they change it to add under god!

At the time it did not bother me or change anything in my world!

In reality I did question it at all!!

Since it did not affect my being on the planet!

Do I now agree with that decision made by the republicans and Democrats under Eisenhower now?

NO!

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the original pledge didn't have under god in it, was added in 1954 (if i remember right). when it comes time to say under god i just clam up and say nothing till past that point. just me though.

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It was a gimmick to sell magazines.

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I will say the pledge as it was before under god was added.

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Not always no. And I definitely do not say under God. It was added after the pledges creation.

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I step out of the room. Fuck 'em if they can't take the truth.

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I always stand but leave out "under god." When I was in grade school the Reverend Hunsicker's wife was my teacher. We used to ALWAYS have to recite the "God is great, god is good" thing before lunch. I used to hate that even at that age.

should have said god is imaginary god does nothing

@benhmiller I was 8 at the time... I already spent time enough in the principal's office getting the oak paddle!

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MsAl Level 8 Aug 24, 2019
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I haven't been called to say it since I was in school. I usually did not say the u under God.

My high schooler informed me last year that she sits through it. I'm proud of her but it does make me worried about how this could affect her treatment.

MsAl Level 8 Aug 24, 2019
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As an anarchist I don't. I ALWAYS felt awkward about the under god part, and in second grade I asked my atheist father about it. He explained the situation. I used to recite it, but not the under god part. Then I saw that it is all just idolatry and an attempt by the state to brainwash the public. So no, I don't want any part of the pledge.

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I worked in public schools and said the pledge, but not the under god part. I did stand and put my hand over my heart.

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I agree, good to show support of our country as the founders intended, as I believe most non-conservatives do. However, I would NOT participate in the '56 addition of "under God" - silence would be my statement.

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No problemI

bobwjr Level 10 Aug 24, 2019
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I stand to pledge allegiance, but do not say "under God" because I prefer our country to be "indivisible" and I believe in separation of church and state.

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We should pledge allegiance to the ideals which founded our great American experiment in representative democracy, a republic. The phrase "Under God" makes America into a theocracy, which the catholics & some other power hungry religious nuts would love to see. . America was founded, to a great extent, by people who were fleeing religious tyranny

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I don't, I'm in a school and daily ignore that part in the Bible belt. I grew up in Mass. in public school (70's) we did not say that part due to a law suit that was won from the adding of those words. Most people are surprised that "under one God" was just added in 1956.

Thank you. When I read that it was added in 54 I thought I was crazy because I don't remember ever saying it. I grew up in MA as well.

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I haven't had much cause to recite the pledge of allegience in a long time. I hadn't really thought about it, but I like your approach.

Years ago when "under God" in the pledge had become a current issue, I wrote to my Texas Senator Kay Bailey Hutchinson (now retired - Thanks? Her replacement was Ted Cruz 😥) suggesting we replace "under God" with a phrase from a recent Pres. George W Bush state of the union address - "diverse and united." I received a letter back from Hutchinson's office thanking me for my letter and supporting the importance of preserving our current pledge of allegience. It wasn't the last time I felt my opinion was ignored by my Texas representives; it may have been the first. Not certain exactly what I expected.

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