Do you say the pledge of allegiance, when called to do so in a public setting? If so, do you include the words "...under god?" If not, do you stand or do you remain seated if you are already seated? I myself stand and pledge my allegiance because I want folks to know that I--a liberal, agnostic, Democrat--am invested in making this country as good as it can be, but I don't say "under God."
Yes I'm will say the pledge & I purposely & unabashedly hold my head high & keep my mouth very shut during the "under god" part. I wish someone would say something.
Sally, I too for years purposely and unabashedly, et cetera. I finally said something in a Toastmasters club whose (mostly war veterans, like me) members pledged. I told them what the Supreme Court said (see my post above), and added what Paul in 1 Corinthians 11 said, “I have given up childish things.” They almost unanimously agreed to my motion to stop pledging.
I stand with my hands at my sides and do not recite.
Do you need to where you are living?
@JackPedigo Never! But back when I lived in the US and the pledge was bein recited, I stood and that was the extent of my involvement.
@BajaSusana I wonder if other countries do this imbecilic thing?
I was in school before they change it to add under god!
At the time it did not bother me or change anything in my world!
In reality I did question it at all!!
Since it did not affect my being on the planet!
Do I now agree with that decision made by the republicans and Democrats under Eisenhower now?
NO!
the original pledge didn't have under god in it, was added in 1954 (if i remember right). when it comes time to say under god i just clam up and say nothing till past that point. just me though.
I will say the pledge as it was before under god was added.
Not always no. And I definitely do not say under God. It was added after the pledges creation.
I step out of the room. Fuck 'em if they can't take the truth.
I always stand but leave out "under god." When I was in grade school the Reverend Hunsicker's wife was my teacher. We used to ALWAYS have to recite the "God is great, god is good" thing before lunch. I used to hate that even at that age.
should have said god is imaginary god does nothing
@benhmiller I was 8 at the time... I already spent time enough in the principal's office getting the oak paddle!
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As an anarchist I don't. I ALWAYS felt awkward about the under god part, and in second grade I asked my atheist father about it. He explained the situation. I used to recite it, but not the under god part. Then I saw that it is all just idolatry and an attempt by the state to brainwash the public. So no, I don't want any part of the pledge.
I worked in public schools and said the pledge, but not the under god part. I did stand and put my hand over my heart.
I agree, good to show support of our country as the founders intended, as I believe most non-conservatives do. However, I would NOT participate in the '56 addition of "under God" - silence would be my statement.
We should pledge allegiance to the ideals which founded our great American experiment in representative democracy, a republic. The phrase "Under God" makes America into a theocracy, which the catholics & some other power hungry religious nuts would love to see. . America was founded, to a great extent, by people who were fleeing religious tyranny
I don't, I'm in a school and daily ignore that part in the Bible belt. I grew up in Mass. in public school (70's) we did not say that part due to a law suit that was won from the adding of those words. Most people are surprised that "under one God" was just added in 1956.
Thank you. When I read that it was added in 54 I thought I was crazy because I don't remember ever saying it. I grew up in MA as well.
I haven't had much cause to recite the pledge of allegience in a long time. I hadn't really thought about it, but I like your approach.
Years ago when "under God" in the pledge had become a current issue, I wrote to my Texas Senator Kay Bailey Hutchinson (now retired - Thanks? Her replacement was Ted Cruz ) suggesting we replace "under God" with a phrase from a recent Pres. George W Bush state of the union address - "diverse and united." I received a letter back from Hutchinson's office thanking me for my letter and supporting the importance of preserving our current pledge of allegience. It wasn't the last time I felt my opinion was ignored by my Texas representives; it may have been the first. Not certain exactly what I expected.