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“I don’t know who put all of this in motion. It’s certainly not the almighty God I was raised with. It’s a god that resides in this mystical notion of all-nothingness. I’m not a mystic. I’m a scientist. But this is a feeling I have. I find myself in a wonderful universe with a very positive and romantic outlook on life. If only we humans could make a better job of getting along with each other.” Christof Koch

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WilliamFleming 8 Sep 28
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The design problem. Not perfection as would be expected from ‘god’. Especially biological organisms. Struggle with this. Genetics helps some.

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There was no "Who" there to put it in motion. FWIW...

Unless he's talking about the Whos down in Whoville, now that i can agree with...

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"It is amazing how many people seemingly cannot tell the difference between 'X is true' and 'It is desirable that people should believe that X is true'. Or maybe they don't really fall for this logical error, but simply rate truth as unimportant compared with 'human feelings'. I don't want to decry human feelings; But let's be clear, in any particular conversation, what are we talking about: feelings, or truth. Both may be important, but they are not the same thing."   -Richard Dawkins-

I’d say that in the above quote Koch is talking strictly about his feelings—he makes that point crystal clear.

When it comes to the subject of truth though, I’m not convinced that Dawkins is an ultimate authority.

@WilliamFleming No one said he was.

“I don’t know who put all of this in motion. It’s certainly not the almighty God I was raised with. It’s a god that resides in this mystical notion of all-nothingness."

All of that is falsely presented as a truth.

@zblaze And then he qualifies with, “I’m not a mystic. I’m a scientist. But this is a feeling I have.”

Yes, Koch resorts to that dreaded “G” word to get his point across, but IMO he makes very pertinent and meaningful statements about the human situation. We are thrust into an enigmatic reality of which we have conscious awareness but can never truly understand. Yet it is a reality of great magnificence and beauty, inspiring awe and reverence.

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AMEN!

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Perhaps all of this was always in motion. If so, that would be the awe of it all.

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sorry, don't buy anybody who says that whomever put this in motion is a god, smells like b.s. to me hidden with mystic consciousness psychobabble

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I respect that optimism... If only I could share in it just a little bit.

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Koch is one of my go to guys when I need a kick to reboot!

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Why can't we all just get along.

Science is like a branch on the tree of life, a tool of observation.

Collective consciousness of 80% of the people are the true measurement for positive change in society overall. Always has been throughout human history.

Politics is more often an delustion of freedom and human rights. Religion dose more harm than good. Military solves nothing.

So what esle do we have more credible?

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Unfortunately it is often a matter of ego.

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that was a good article thanks for posting that Bill!!

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