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If you were a religious person before, and you had the chance to go back in time and do things differently, would you want to relive that experience, or would you rather be what you are now from the beginning(birth)?
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FinallyFreed 4 Oct 1
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I spent most of my life believing the all-knowing, all-loving creator of the universe would send me to burn for eternity because of my sexuality/gender identity. and that this was somehow acceptable and good. i’d be much happier without that psychological trauma.

I think a lot of people would! Dealing with trauma that others have caused is extremely difficult!

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Difficult to say, the process of abandon religion gave me a solid conviction, was not by anger or frustration, but a slow process of learning and leaving the emotional connection. I think if I was not religious at some time, my agnosticism would be weaker or to naive today.

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Interesting question. - - I kind of believed some religious (faith based on baseless assertions not supported by facts) nonsense before I hit upper elementary school (4th grade?) when I noticed the church was trying to teach us things that did not agree with reality. I figured church was nothing more then old people trying to scare kids into being afraid of their make believe super dictator. During those early years I didn't waste much time thinking about the invisible all powerful sky-daddy as I had more interesting things to learn so religion had a minimal price for me.

I do however know a few atheists (that I helped see the light of reality over fiction) that burned many years in the faith (Catholic) and are very angry about the lost years and resources wasted on religious nonsense. They have told me how they wished they had not burned so many opportunities because of their indoctrination.

Thank you for sharing that. I didn’t grow up in the church, but when I was a freshman in high school I wanted to find out who this god person was. Even though my family didn’t go to church I was always told I was Christian and I knew who Jesus was, but I wanted to experience him for myself. So, I asked my favorite teacher if she went to church and if I could go to church with her, and she said absolutely! So I started going to church, I became apart of the youth group, the choir, and I was a praise singer.(I also got my family and friends into church and got them baptized). We went to things like church camp in the summer and I always had a blast, and I truly felt loved, but as things happened in my life, I pulled away from the church. I gave tithes faithfully, but I always wondered, “if god has all the money in the world why does he need mines”? So, by the time I was a senior in high school, I didn’t really go to church anymore (just every now and then), and I would say I’m working on Sundays, so I couldn't come (which was true). By the way we didn’t wear makeup, nail polish, or pants(very modest apostolic Pentecostal), so I was freezing my ass off in the Chicago winter! Six months after I graduated I started wearing pants again, and two years later I entered college and met lots of new people. In those two years I went to church every once in a while. I started learning about different religions, but I was a mathematics major and we had to do proofs, and any theory that didn’t have a proof wouldn’t be accepted, so I started doing my research and fast forward another two years to present time and I’m no longer a Christian. I am now agnostic even though I have been for a couple of years; I just started telling people and being comfortable with it, because everyone used to know me as a died hard Christian, and now I’m a cold blooded non-believer to them. However, I wouldn’t change a thing because, I have met some great people, and it’s apart of what made me who I am today. I also have not wasted decades being a believer, so that’s also an upside to why I wouldn’t change a thing. If I had wasted decades, I would probably do things differently and enjoy my life.

@FinallyFreed Thanks for your great account - very interesting - Safe to say you have become a very good person with a good life and in your case, a few years of contact with religion did more good then harm.

First scanning your reply I was a bit confused and I really hate to be a grammar Nazi but I think your ". . . I became apart of the youth group. . . " was supposed to be ". . . I became a part . . " as, according to writingexplained.org, "Apart is an adverb, meaning, “separated” or “separately.” A part is a noun, meaning, “a piece of segment of something.”

@FinallyFreed I majored in Math, and later Science so I think I understand how you feel. It's hard for me to believe the God of the universe is interested in what people do every minute and especially what people do while they are naked. I really don't see why he/she/other would like to write books.

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Being a believer was not a negative experience for me and gave my childhood some very enjoyable, fun and happy activities in the youth groups I was associated with in the Presbyterian church. I would not take anything for that.

I feel the exact same way!

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I wouldn't change a thing because now I have more data and experience. My experience with the Christian dogma is what drew me to agnosticism. I had many questions about the Bible as it contradicts itself multiple times and how exactly the devil giving Eve access to information made him evil.

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Our experiences make us what we are today but I would erase my past religious experience if I could. This has one danger. If I never had my time with religion in the first place I might be easily drawn back into it. As it is now that will never happen.

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None of the above. Religion was good for me until I was 18. It gave me a lot of public speaking and networking opportunities as a child. However once i turned 18 I should have abandoned any and all religions.

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Oh that i was raised in an even a "average christain" home. Extreme religion was the main factor that wrecked my childhood and caused irreversible psychological harm. Granted not the only factor, i now know of.

I’m going to counseling now for those childhood traumas, because their a doozy!!!

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I don't have any particular regrets about the social experience of my religion of origin. My malfunction with it is that it did such a terrible job of preparing me for reality and setting my expectations for life that it was a total disaster. I married young and badly, and had children with that person that I shouldn't have. My entire orientation on mate selection was "marry a good Christian girl", in other words, someone who professed to be a Christian and had no overt bad conduct. Problem was, she was mentally ill, incapable of being in a relationship or being a mother, so I ended up trying to parent two screwed up kids even when I eventually came to my senses and got out of the relationship. One of those developed mental health issues of his own and died at age 30.

So knowing what I know now, I would definitely make better life decisions on a "do over". I would probably put up with church to humor my parents (and not to alarm them) but would quickly "drift away" once out of the nest. I would marry about 10 years later in life if at all, and I would not have kids.

The reality of course is we don't get do-overs and whatever pain I've had up to this point is a sunk cost so the real issue is enjoying the life I actually have right now.

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I love going to church! It’s guarantee breakfast and a nap! Win win!

So true!!!! I used to fall asleep all the time!

I go to church because my wife has an illness and I want to be there if something happens to her, but I don't believe any of it. I am not a member and don't plan to be. I can listen to preaching and sometimes wonder why the members can actually join a cult. Sometimes I really get sick of it, especially that old testament stuff.

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I'd have vacated the blissful ignorance prior to even entering the race and never questioned nor regretted it a single time.

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I have a lot of good memories of friends I had in the church, but I have to think that I would have new fun memories without religion hanging over my head. Ultimately I don't want to be living a lie.

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I am not sure if I grew up religious but I grew up with a belief in God. I did do Confirmation and I was an altar boy for a few years, so I guess I grew up religious. However, I don't think I grew up religious to the point that it hugely affected my life. With that said, I still would want to be what I am now from birth because just as with religion someone would have had to teach me. This coupled with my natural curiousity would have enable me to be farer ahead on this journey of finding out what to do now that "God is Dead"

I have been searching for the truth concerning the meaning of life for several years. I don't think I will ever find out the truth, except for the aspect that there is no meaning. I do find now that I don't look at the world and say "look how beautiful, there must be a God". I think if we don't know why something exists or happens, then we should just say "I don't know" (almost quoted from Richard Dawkins).

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I really don't know. I'm still questioning everything I've ever been taught tbh.

Question everything and go against the status quo!

But you got to be careful.

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I was not raised religious and never was. My parents tried a little but it never caught on. It was mostly a non issue. I have read most of the bible and tried to educate my self on other religions and beliefs.Not that I agree with them,but it is interesting to see how many different view points there are. And they all think that their way is the only way.

If I were raised religious and finally saw the light and turned Agnostic or Atheist I think I would be a different person now from being raised that way. disgruntled to say the least from being raised to believe the fairy tales were true.

Most religions teach some good rules to live by like don't steal and not lie,and respect your neighbor etc, but we should live that way anyway.Without being made to believe in Noah's Ark, and the dude that waved his staff and parted the sea,and the devil will get us if we don't behave. We can't blame the ones that raised us because they were raised to believe that way too.

I was really bummed when I found out there was no Santa. I'm still trying to get over that.

Haha! I No Santa, that’s gotta be rough! I still haven’t gotten over the tooth fairy, because I want 500 bucks for every wisdom tooth grow I grow(this shit hurts, and I’m on my 4th one 🤦🏾♀️).

@FinallyFreed I used to like Christmas, but now I kinda despise it. There is very little evidence that Jesus actually lived, and Dec. 25th was borrowed from a Roman pagan God. However, I do like the smell of real Christmas trees. I hate the silly gift-giving. Please don't make me look at another manger seen.

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I don't see the value of any religious instruction that I've been given so I don't see a reason to go through what I went through because of religion. I don't know if I'd be any different, but the idea doesn't disturb me in any way.

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This is an excellent question. I voted that I would not change a thing. The decision is not an easy one for me. I became agnostic at the age of about 62. Up until then I had lived as a Christian (or tried to). I am now 68. I had lot's of doubts after studying Physics and Astronomy in college. However, religion did seem to help me grow up, especially in the Bible Belt. I was probably one of those people that felt like God kinda gave me the edge to see through a crisis. I don't know if growing up agnostic would have given me a better life, but maybe. I have been able to see both sides of the coin. However, I do not see how any new agnostic could ever go back to religion.

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Knowing why religious folk think what they do helps me have empathy for them and makes me immune to their arguments. I became atheist relatively young so most of my life has been as a non-believer. So, that’s why I don't mind the way it started. Just happy I was able to free myself.

Cinco Level 5 Oct 3, 2019
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I have never been religious but if I had my life over again I would certainly change a few things, but then hindsight is a wonderful thing. As the job candidate when asked asked what his strengths were said "hindsiight". Interviewer " that's not gotng to help much". Candidate "I can see that now "

Hahahahaah, funny. thanks

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I don't ever speculate on unreal ilogical scenarios.

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I never grew up with religion but more so spiritual. We prayed over every meal and occasionally attended churches, but my family wasn’t big on labels or the traditional aspects. It’s what made it so easy to look outside the box and be accepted. So I wouldn’t change it at all

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