Interesting, do you have a link?

I never heard of any spiritual sided people bombing or taking over places like Pearl Harbours. Or destroy innocent people, temples and statue of leaders in Iraq. Bush was saying God told him to attack Iraq, confirmed by his little dog. Spiritual is like a tool for positive creative effects. Opposite to a destructive conflict Religions. Every largest Centro organization I know of , is more harmful than good. Especially Centro banking.

I don't see spiritual sided in bed with Religion or with 95% Judeo/Christains US Congress, Politicians or Military. Spiritual is high energy tapped into personal growth and joy. No claims of superiority, leave that up to Jealous God's.

Scientists seek to quantify everything—even the ineffable. And so the human search for meaning recently took a physical turn as Columbia and Yale University researchers isolated the place in our brains that processes spiritual experiences.

I don't know how concrete this is, my guess it's only in a small part of vast more to come.

I build many historical stories in theme parks, museums, stag and film. The greatest number of great men in human history speak highest about imagination, science and spiritual inspired. They managed to focus on what inspired them from the unknowns ready to be discovered from the invisible to the visible real world. To some degree they were an artist like myself.

@Castlepaloma Have you ever seen any of those videos or heard stories about AI or robots that consistently find solutions to problems that humans wouldn't normally think of or just in general doing narrow tasks more efficiently than humans?

I find it hard to accept that creativity arives from the unknown when their state is perfectly ordered, known, and predictable yet they consistently exceed our expectations.

The last time my art bussiness took a slight dive. It was from a machine called Andy Warhol. Automate machines and computer were only sometimes enhancer, most times they could not beat my combination of hands, mind and heart.

I see horror movies about robots and machines taking over the world. Most can be frightened, for me it is not realistic enough. Machine at best is a copy of our thoughts, can't imagine a machine or computers going beyond the source of where it all came from, our godlike own imagination.

I see horror films of Aliens, I hope they don't eat us like stupid cows or chickens. I hope they are really intelligently treat us with love like children. Not like these moron God's.

@Castlepaloma When the machines take over it will be peaceful. More or a casual transition that we will go through willingly. It is not hard to make a machine go beyond its intended source.

Like logic, creativity can be coded.

@Happy_Killbot
Maybe the machines will have us service them. Like Centro Bankers, media and cell phones do to us today.

My imagination and 3 brains is the boss and will kick bankers or machine ass, at least in my lifetime.
Not counting the 90% white matter at what mankind hasn't even been tapped into yet.

@Castlepaloma I hate to be the bearer of bad new, but the factoid "you only use 10% of your brain" is a myth.
[scientificamerican.com]

The conculsion was.
Ultimately, it's not that we use 10 percent of our brains, merely that we only understand about 10 percent of how it functions.

That why they call it 90% grey matter because grey areas means the bio scientists community dose not know how it functions. I call it white matter because it is in full operational. It's just we don't know it's unknown protential.

@Castlepaloma If we had 10% knowledge of the brain, that would be major cause for celebration. Modern neuroscience is incomplete, with a ton of research ahead of us. Personally I don't think the sum of knowledge held by all scientists and lifelong professionals even breaches 1% of all things to be known about a single human brain but this is highly speculative, because we don't even know what we don't know.

Tim Urban did a post a while back about Neuralink and the challenges with that, just to put things into perspective if you are looking for a good read.
[waitbutwhy.com]

Yes, it would probably take the most intelligent man who ever lived to use 10% of the brain.

Interesting read. The more I learn about people, the more I love animals, just not late at night.

Jellyfish are most amazing to me. It has no brain, no backbone. It is 10 times the weight mass of humans. Jellyfish cover more area on planet earth than human. They travel to the deepest oceans for its prey. It is the only animal with scientists proof of immortality. Then the Bible speak how jealous it is about the jellyfish. Christianity perfers the smiling of the dolphin as they talk about him, with phony Hollywood smiles.

There’s no such thing as the supernatural. There is however ultimate reality which can not be understood from our frame of reference. It’s still natural even if we can’t grasp it.

@Allamanda I’m not sure if I understand you. Are you saying that we need the word “supernatural” to speak of emotions and other intangible things? Offhand I can’t think of the word being used like that. Maybe my mind is in a rut, but I think of the supernatural as something like magic that is imaginary and not real. On the other hand I lean toward thinking that things like ESP phenomena are real and could be understood if we had a better way of thinking—more advanced science.

@Allamanda Oh, I am with you on spirit! We definitely need the word.

See my response at the top, some quotes by a very intelligent Brit.

The vast majority of people are just scripted into suffering survival mode all the time. I script my life with help from spiritual/ Science evolution of beauty and love. That is making me happier and thriving in life.
Same like Neil DeGrasse and Sagan , we are made of star stuff.

@Castlepaloma Just as there should be a separation of church & state, I try to keep spiritual separate from science.

There is no laws or God corrosion forces needed for anyone by using various spiritual ways, not like Religion at all. Sagan or DeGrasse, Hawkings and Enistein or the most impressive list of scienceist I have ever seen don't believe in personal God's. No need for separation for what is or unknowns spiritual evolution.

@Castlepaloma The problem with using the word 'spiritual' is that it is so vague. I don't know what you mean by 'spiritual ways'? On the other hand, science tends to be precise in its' methodology so I don't think the two should be comingled.

No matter if you think spiritual works or not. There are far too many testimonials of great men throughout history I respect. Who describe how spiritual connection has given them empowerment and personal growth to their lives. Most actually detest Religion also.

@Castlepaloma I don't know what you mean by 'spiritual connection'? A feeling of oneness with the universe? The problem with anecdotal testimony is that it is completely subjective. There is no evidence to date which shows that a spiritual experience is anything other than internally produced. (Victor Stenger) It's all in your mind. (Jimi Hendrix)

A good part, yet so much more.

@Castlepaloma No. It is just a feeling.

Are you so absolutly certain just feelings is the total definition?
Just read all the post on this thread.

Plus

Christina Puchalski, MD, Institute for Spirituality and Health, contends that "spirituality is the aspect of humanity that refers to the way individuals seek and express meaning and purpose and the way they experience their connectedness to the moment, to self, to others, to nature, and to the significant or sacred."

Mario Beauregard Spiritual Brain, “spirituality means any experience that is thought to bring the experiencer into contact with the divine in other words, not just any experience that feels meaningful.

Ruth Beckmann “the spiritual dimension tries to be in harmony with the universe, and strives for answers about the infinite, and comes into focus when the person faces emotional stress, physical illness, or death.

@Castlepaloma Mario's "divine" need not be anything other than the truth, or coming closer to an understanding of it, rather than a 'thing' in time and space.
If he means "experience" as in a flash of insight into the true nature of matter and energy, and calls that a "spiritual experience," so be it.
It's too bad the Jesus myth created so much misunderstanding of what spirituality really is, by dressing it up with "miracles" and other tangible "proofs" of legitimacy, when it's really available to anyone who thinks hard enough about life, death, reality.
This world is wondrous enough without trying to escape into another one.
I DO think other planes of existence, other dimensions, are possible, even probable, but I'll never experience them here and now.
But I AM experiencing this world, even if my powers of perception can only detect a fraction of it.

Sounds like, up incoming and being there.

I can only handle in small doses of broken parrots living the bronze age.