These are people dear to me. I consider them to be the victims of a cult. I'm just waiting it out til Trump is gone.

@Sgt_Spanky 5 more years

@Sgt_Spanky you're right-it's a friggin cult!

These are people I love. It breaks my heart to see how mislead they've allowed themselves to become on this one issue.

@Sgt_Spanky I am truly sorry. Nothing you can do. Are they open to reading or no?

@GreatNani Like all Trumptards, their minds are cemented on this. All I can do is wait for that orange cancer to be gone so this all becomes just a bad memory.

@Sgt_Spanky Sorry, but you are the one that's confused

@Sgt_Spanky Yes that is about it. The craziness is mind boggling. I have been to many socialized countries and no one is on a bread line!

@GreatNani Been to Venezuela?

@gater 1 out of how many? Japan, Scandinavia, Scotland all socialized to some extent and no bread lines, free health care and less violence as well.

@GreatNani Those aren't true socialist countries.

I live in the east central part of the state near Kennedy Space Center, most of Florida is like this. 45 took this county by 20 points in 2016. A friend from New England once remarked that," One is either in Miami or Alabama".

He's not. I know a number of clearly intelligent people who, on this one issue, have no active braincells. That includes the people I talked about above. They're good, smart people who are idiots about this Trump thing. It's a bewidering disconnect.

@slydr68 Alright, I'm just going to put this out there because I think all the "Republican = retard" and/or "Liberal = retard" rhetoric is absolute nonsense. You can train a dog to behave in a certain way because humans are almost exclusively more intelligent than dogs. So why then, can't liberals make republicans see there viewpoint and vice versa?

Maybe it's because they aren't much less intelligent than average, such that any overlap would only be statistically significant over large data sets.

In fact, all the studies that show a positive correlation between intelligence and more liberal beliefs show a different trend when you actually look at the correlation between individual policy preferences and general intelligence. Lower IQ individuals tend to support more extreme viewpoints and more intelligent individuals tend to support greater personal freedoms and lower government regulation. ( Gerber, Huber, Doherty, Dowling, & Ha, 2010 ) Because there seems to be a contradiction in the data, we can conclude that the relationship between intelligence and political belief is to complex for simple labels.

So long as Trump and the Rs are in power, the sky's the limit as to how bad it could get.

@Sgt_Spanky I also believe that many of his supporters will cause very serious problems when he's removed. There are most definitely some very
seriously mentally ill people mixed in there, and they will react badly.
People are going to be harmed, innocent and otherwise.
It's far more a matter of "when" than "if".

@KKGator I completely agree. There will be violence. The unstable and disaffected are almost exclusively Trumptards. He appeals to them because if a mouth breathing moron like him can be president, maybe they can aspire to greatnes and become, I don;t know, night mnangaer at a Circle K.

If you aren't scared you're not paying attention.

You so funny!

It certainly would have been a continuation of the same mess

Please provide a logical basis for your statement that Trump is "the best man for the job". Take into account that NO other candidate, Democrat or Republican, would likely have:

-Used the office to enrich their personal corporation by having foreign delegations staying at their own hotels (and most recently proposed hosting the G7 at a resort they personally own) in violation of the emoluments clause

-Insulted our NATO allies while cozying up to foreign despots

-Started a trade war with China, which we are in fact losing; we are financing our own farmers for the losses they are sustaining due to sales they no longer make to China, for just one instance where the trade war isn't working as anticipated

-Declared victory over ISIS and pulled out of Syria, against the advice of every military leader

These are all actions which, had Hilary Clinton, for instance, taken them, would have you calling for her immediate impeachment. But you forgive Trump everything, because you have willfully blinded yourself to everything he does.

@Paul4747 lol - have you ever been accused of being "long winded"?
So record unemployment and a record stock market mean nothing to you? Take off your rose colored glasses, Hilary is an idiot, and Bill is a predator - the Dems are morons for ever backing her.

@gater Answer his questions.

Now it's my turn to be long-winded. Ready?

This record unemployment you reference is primarily low paying, deadend jobs. We know this because wages have remained flat for the last 40 years and still are. Do you think everyone is suddenly making $80K and up under the boundless generosity of King Trump? That unemployment figure represents Walmart greeters, ticket takers, waiters, and counter service employees. Jobs like that.

The stock market is for people who already have the money to gamble with. It doesn't represent the middle-class and it no measure of an economy's overall fiscal health. Y'know what is; everyone making more money. How much richer have you become under Trump? Have you bought that new Lexuus, or a ski boat, or a bigger, better home? How much of a raise did you get at work and how mych fatter is your bank account under Trump? If you're rich, you've made millions under him, if not, you;ve done no better.

All Repub policies benefit corporations and the wealthy only. That's not just my opinion, look up their policies over the last 40 years and see it for yourself.

Wake up fool.

@Sgt_Spanky Trump being elected is one of the best things that's ever happened to this country. Listen to your family - you are clearly the slow one of the group.

@gater Annnd there's all the stupid and ignorance I expected. No answers to anything, just "I love Trump. You dumb."

@gater Bill Clinton is an accused sex predator, but his relationship with Monica Lewinsky was consensual for her part (as much as it could be with an intern), she never alleged coercion that I have heard of. Certainly Bill never, for example, walked into the dressing room at a beauty pageant or bragged about his ability to sexually assault women with impunity, on camera with a reporter.

More importantly, as President, he balanced the budget and even got us a surplus, which your party then squandered with tax cuts for the rich. He never claimed that tax cuts magically bring in double or triple the revenue. And Clinton knew more than his aides, on any topic. He took care to bring in very smart people and then studied not only what they gave him, but reached out and read up on the topic until he knew things even beyond the scope of their briefings. Whereas there is every indication that Trump doesn't even listen to or read the briefing because he thinks he knows it all already. The key difference is that with Clinton it is intelligence and curiosity; with Trump, mere ego.

And, as @Sgt_Spanky said, you avoided the entire question. Moreover, you once again demonstrated your double standard. You bring up Bill Clinton as a sex predator and ignore Trump's much longer record of the same- I guess he gets a pass because he's your sex predator? You insult Hilary Clinton with a mere word; well, Yale doesn't give out law degrees for being an "idiot". Maybe the Trump University does- where did The Donald graduate again? Oh, right- BS from Fordham. You would think a degree in economics would have taught him how foreign trade works... guess not.

No, no-one has ever accused me of being long-winded. I am very thorough, however, when running down someone on the Internet who is full of shit. If you have a logical reason for your views, I'd love to hear it. Otherwise, what I'm hearing is the same as The Donald's economics degree. BS.

@Sgt_Spanky Well, not exactly, but yeah, that sounds about right

@Paul4747 Oh please, compare Clinton to Trump? Clinton still stands accused of rape. Hitting on interns and lying about it, had to pay off Paula Jones $850K - and how many trips did he take to Epsteins Island?
Clinton is a disgusting predator and the moronic Dems wanted him back in the White House. You people should be ashamed of your own stupidity.

@gater How can you not see the irony in what you just posted? Read it again, then read it again until you see it.

@Sgt_Spanky You mean because it was Hilary running and not Bill? Bill would be living in the White House, representing this country - he's a disgusting pig and rapist.

@gater No, that's not the irony. Read it until you fucking get it.

@Sgt_Spanky Well I can't read your fucking mind - so get over it.

@gaterYou're fucking hopeless.

@Sgt_Spanky you are moron

@CrazyQuilter I have a Trumper Friend, who has no money in the market, tell me that the stock market IS the economy

I was asked the same thing. Trumptards are so disconnected from the reality of who/what he is they can't see the bomb exploding in front of their faces.

@Sgt_Spanky did you give any examples - his promise to release his taxes. his promise to divest his hotels or do you have a favourite example or two?