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Feel free to reply to any comment by clicking the "Reply" button.I still maintain that the only thing necessary in confirming Merrick Garland were for the Senators to put their consent or rejection on the record. The Constitution doesn't require a vote. The impeachment is rather similar. The Articles of Impeachment are now a matter of public record. As such, the Senate can act on them at any time.
bingst
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Dec 22, 2019
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One scenario: Pelosi holds onto the articles until 2021 when the new Congress is sworn in. The new Democratic majority then convicts and unseats Trump, even though reelected (again, illegitimately),... or directs the various State prosecutors to proceed with their legal actions to convict Trump for his many felonies. As a flight risk, he needs to be confined with an ankle bracelet and armed guards.
Another scenario is that he is sent to the appropriate CIA facility to try to figure out what Putin did to him. Preferably, he is sent to Guantanamo for the same reason, but using extreme interrogation techniques.
racocn8
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Dec 22, 2019
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A third scenario;
McConnell...having talked with all the potential "witnesses" and making sure they don't say anything "critical" to the defense of Trump....gives in and lets these characters testify.
The strongly biased "witnesses" and the strongly biased "senate" will - IMO - acquit Trump - although this might be drawn out well past the primaries and even the democratic convention.
Trump still has a strong chance of winning in 2020. The key will be the determination of the American voter.
@Robecology The GOP/Trump have no story line that can exhonerate Trump, and you cannot suggest that the witnesses can stick to a lie and not be blatently obvious. They'd surely cut their own throats, and that would be fine. Every one of the GOP would violate their oaths of office as well as the oath they take to be impartial. Most of them are on Putin's payroll and those that aren't have other compremat gathered by the Nat. Enquirer. Trump only has a strong chance of winning in 2020 if the electorate are brainwashed by the Russians the same way as in 2016. That is why the Dems do expect to lose again... along with pervasive voter suppression throughout the red states.
Averting the impeachment trial until after a new congress is sworn in, in the hopes that the Senate will then be in control by Democrats, is as valid a strategy as McConnell used in regards to Garland. I think even if Trump were to lose re-election, it would still be feasible to hold an impeachment trial. I don't think there's anything in the Constitution that would prevent such, and a conviction would prevent Trump from holding any kind of office or position in the federal government in the future. It might also prevent any kind of post-presidential benefits, which would be an interesting state of affairs.
What good will that do?
Two wrongs don't make a right.
RoboGraham
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Dec 22, 2019
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McConnell did what he did legally. Pelosi will reply with legal actions, of course. There will be no "wrongs"....here....we're witnessing Constitutional chess. All moves are legal...or at least that's what their lawyers tell them.
@Robecology Actions can be legal but still wrong. It would be wrong of me to sleep with your wife, for example, nothing illegal about it though.
What's the point in holding up the trial? If she believes in her impeachment case, send it over. If the republicans refuse to remove him, that's on them. If it's political theater, on the other hand, well that's a different story.
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