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“Scientists say human extinction is likely. And people don't seem all that bothered by the possibility.”
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MissKathleen 9 Dec 23
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As a scientist I'd have to say Human extinction is inevitable. The question is 'is this likely within the immediate future', which is a bit trickier. We certainly seem to be in a position whereby we could do ourselves an awful lot of damage in the near future, but wiping us all out appears a bit ambitious, given the number of people there are knocking about, and our general adaptability. More realistically, could we effectively destroy everything we think of as civilization in the near future? Probably. Which, sadly, seems to be attractive to a certain mindset. The possibility of us being mostly wiped out, with the survivors living in scattered pockets similar to what we would consider a collapsed state (more war-torn bit of Africa than MadMax) without the resources to ever pull ourselves out, possibly even with repeated genetic bottlenecks slowly robbing us of much of our creativity as we lack the means to express it, should be considered utterly terrifying.

JoeB Level 6 Dec 25, 2019
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I go extinct in 40 years, tops.
By that time I don't think I'll mind that much...my certainty is about 100%.

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From a line in the movie Dr. Strangelove: "Mr. President, we cannot allow a mine-shaft gap."

(Dr. Strangelove had a plan to put a lot of beautiful women and a few strong, virile men deep in a mine shaft so they could survive the (nearly) total extinction of humans.)

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I don’t get it. An eighty percent reduction in humans would leave enough to carry on. I would think that would be far more preferable than total extinction.

Of course no “thing” lasts forever, not even the earth. There’s something behind it all in my opinion, something that transcends time. Suppose that some cataclysmic event extinguished all life, and that in a trillion years there was a rebirth. From the perspective of consciousness itself that trillion years would seem like less time than the blink of an eye. Time is merely an invention of conscious awareness.

“...as Einstein put it ‘Time and space are modes by which we think, and not conditions in which we live.’ ”30”

— The Case Against Reality: Why Evolution Hid the Truth from Our Eyes by Donald Hoffman
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@MissKathleen I suppose it would be a random series of events: war, famine, disease, etc, taking place over time. A new ice age would do it. The 20% left would be strong, courageous, and determined, and they could easily carry on the race. Twenty percent is a huge number. Two percent could do it.

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Heh heh heh...

"That which does not kill you needs to try harder on its second pass...."

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The worst that will happen is the collective IQ of the Universe will jump up several points.

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[en.wikipedia.org]

The Voluntary Human Extinction Movement.

Time to give Felidae a go...

Actually, nix that - we'd be too busy watching things we swatted fall off of tables...

@MissKathleen - Can't fault your post on that one, MissKathleen...

Too many rude apes, not enough Darwin in sight.

@MissKathleen
Nobody's volunteering themselves, only the next generation. "I got mine but I get to decide that you don't get yours."

It's an enormous lie. I will believe them when they start offing themselves.

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I know how people are. They talk big, but when it comes to volunteering, I don't see any lines forming.

skado Level 9 Dec 23, 2019
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Why?

When you are ass deep in the middle of the swamp, one forgets the original reason for being in the swamp was too drain it!!

Human kind and trump kind seems like not much difference anymore!!!

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Probably no bad thing if we do go, give the next species a chance. I see though, that the one thing they don't mention is infectious disease, which seems likely given that we are now one of the panets best possible food sources, and that we use almost no quarantine, as we jet round the globe. While it is said that it is perfectly possible to model an infectious disease which could wipe out an entire species. It is perhaps only a matter of time.

Clearly we are not being vigilant enough about this scenario, yet if our herd is not culled (but not annihilated completely) by disease, we will run out of resources shortly. That, IMO, would be worse.

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