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I joined this group to explore origin theories. On one hand we have this vast universe filled with incalculable mater.This matter explodes and creates the stars and the planets.On the other hand we have millions of humans who continue to believe this same universe was created by a deity. Is there any diffinitive proof that either one is right. This is the one question I would like an answer to before I die.cisco

KenMitchell 1 Jan 3
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Neither explanation means a damn thing. The human mind can not understand existence and creation because we are bogged down in an illusory sense-world of matter moving through space and time.

In his book *Reality is not What it Seems” renowned physicist Carlo Rovelli posits that time does not exist, particles of matter are not “things”, and space is made out of a finite number of granules. If Rovelli is correct, any question about creation, causality, location, motion or even existence itself is meaningless in an ultimate sense.

I would think that before we humans concern ourselves with the nature of ultimate reality, we should attempt to learn of what we ourselves consist. Without conscious awareness our selves would have no existence, but no one seems to understand the nature of awareness or how it arises.

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So there is this vast incalculable intelligence, called god, which just exploded into life out off nowhere, and then decides to make somewhere for itself to live. ( See the problem.)

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Which sounds more plausible?

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The god hypothesis is non-falsifiable by design, so you can never prove nor disprove it.

On the other hand, the current understanding of science, while incomplete, has tons of evidence in its favor.

It's not really difficult to chose between the two.

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