"It just makes sense that god exist"`is an argument that annoys me to no end.
Water carries the life giving elements but is not life sustaining. It just carries life giving elements to plants and animals. For plants it is prodite and for animals it is floristimum. People think it is actually the water but it just makes since that the water is everywhere and would actually kill life without these life giving elements.
It just makes sense.
Just becuse it makes sense does not mean it is concordent with reality.
How do you answer the "It just makes sense" argument?
Whenever somebody says "it makes sense", there is always a (usually) unspoken "to me" or "to us" on the end. "Making sense" of things is something our minds do. As you said, just because something (seems to) make sense, doesn't mean it's so.
Since when does "makes sense " an argument? An argument, by definition, is given to convince the recipient that something is true or not. Sorry, makes sense is not an argument, it doesn't prove anything, it's just a vapid and vacuous statement of an opinion.
yeah I know the feeling; and know that without patience -you both go nowhere in changing stances.I decide how much energy is worthwhile to devote to influencing the others belief set; as stated below to be surrounded by bias,is not new.I can be lied to / but I can't lie to myself( successfully);
if the person is not in denial-reason and logic has possibilities. I must be vested in the others wellfare and try to relate to where they are STUCK,not excepting realistic
and pragmatic facts. Work a steady progression of where/why religion is based<and the result ,compared to the
UN; science;and other humanistic groups. We are proving
more & more natural physical constructs; the proof is all around us.
Thanks
Then they are devoid of this claimed "sense".
It makes the same amount of sense to say that God did all this as to say that all this sort of popped into existence by accident. Both assertions explain absolutely nothing.
No one understands or has an ultimate answer.
"If that is true, you should be able to prove to me that god exists . . . . I challenge you to PROVE IT!, for millennia, humans have claimed that god exists, but have yet to prove it to anyone, care to try?" This is a head-on challenge to what they are saying. They will ultimately try to side-step the issue, tangentialize to change the subject, but if you hold them to it, do not let them divert away from your demand that they prove it, they will usually wither away and scurry off . . . . .
I have had the same experience.
Theist: "It just makes sense that god exists."
Me: "And your line of reasoning is?"
(Waits for theist's head to explode.)
The only reason it "makes sense" is because we've been indoctrinated since we were old enough to listen, that God is the reason for everything. It took a long time questioning one thing at a time until I realized that it made no sense at all. I can understand why some people think the way they do, because I was raised the same way, But I wish I had been raised secular. It would have meant me understanding the way the world works much better and earlier.
I find that theists lack the ability to think. You clearly have the ability to think.
I'm happy enough that the patriarchal idea of God doesn't make sense but I wonder about an entity we can't understand, at least so far. I'm thinking of something like universal consciousness.
I agree.
I really doubt such a thing exist and will continue to understand it as such until evidence is provided. It is not my intention to be closed minded, rather to deal with what I can work with .
I've always told believers that god makes NO sense at all.
So far, there hasn't been a single one who has tried to argue that with me.
One lady, who came to my door, even looked scared when I said it.
LOL
"It may makes sense to you, but it is absurd nonsense to me."
Yep scientific fact means nothing. It is all about what makes sense.
@DavidLaDeau By way of fantasy and imagination.