I agree, but from what does this evil action grow?

@Cyklone selfishness, and a twisted psychopathy in some humans who derive pleasure from inflicting pain and seeing others suffer...sadism, egotism, megalomania...and a whole spectrum of other serious mental conditions.

But serial rapists and killers are trying to satisfy some personal need, even if that is to create pain or subjugation and they do it without regard for the needs if the victim. They don't care.

@Cyklone yes and that's why it's evil

But, all of those things stem from greed - not some nebulous "evil".

@AmyTheBruce white supremacist and racist are not always greed

@bobwjr that's an interesting point. I wonder with we could argue that their racism grew out of greed regarding their world view.

@Cyklone most likely from insecurity about themselves and need to feel superior

@bobwjr you're arguing my point here. Their need before the wellbeing of others.

@bobwjr I humbly disagree (I have to be humble because I know that my experience is limited). The racists and white supremacists I have known are indeed motivated by greed. Or, if not greed exactly, then by its close cousin: fear of loss. They fear losing their economic or social advantage.

@AmyTheBruce further in the past( 60's) had less to do with economics that superiority, I remember those times well.

Perhaps, but we also observe rrpeatedly that adults will instinctively sacrifice themselves for a child and not necessarily their own, so perhaps species survival transcends the self?

@Cyklone yes, I think it does

Great link! Thanks.

Interesting link. I was interested in the concept of evil outside the idea of any god.