An adequate response?
Also, anyone know of any clubs for these posts?
SoulMate333 wrote:
"God doesn't send people to Hell... people send themselves to Hell for unbelief. Its their choice. "
TrooperChessOrTC replied:
Then how many people have unjustly been sent to Hell because of that belief? How many of those people had a choice in something they knew nothing about? You do realize that many people who lived on one of the American contents about 800 years ago, never even heard of the Bible before, and they would live and die just fine. YET, they never would have heard of the Bible, so even a good and morally just person living in that time and place would go to Hell, simply because he never heard of the religion?
How would that even work for someone who doesn't have the slightest inkling of an idea of what Hell even is?
Also, according the man written work, God created people, and gifted choice upon them, all the while fully knowing that many people of his own creation would chose wrong, and would suffer for eternity. Something that is still stated that God has the only power of giving anyone an eternal life.
There is wisdom in that book, don't get that wrong though, you just have to identify between the story and the wisdom.
I fully believe in the statement of "Love thy neighbor." over the irrelevant idea of a bush on fire.
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Feel free to reply to any comment by clicking the "Reply" button.Looks like you are on a better wicket if you convert to RC because there you get purgatory.
Have a peek at Dante’s Divine Comedy to see how it’s only the really nasty fellows that end up in the Inferno!
Geoffrey51
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Mar 12, 2020
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Exactly what wisdom is in "that book" you couldn't make up yourself?
Hell? If hell did exist, it would be 'god,' the source of that supposed wisdom, which created it.
It is said 'god is good.' The same god which created hell? How could a good 'god' create something so evil, if descriptions of hell we hear about are to be believed?
There are several ways to resolve this conundrum:
- hell is not a place of eternal torment; rather one of correction, suffering and, yes, rehabilitation. Indeed, the Greek word 'aion' means 'an indeterminate amount of time,' not ' everlasting.' That's a mistranslation in the King James Bible. So it could be a place much like the Catholic purgatory. You enter, stay as long as necessary, then go to heaven.
- god is not good, but evil.
- god, and hell, does not exist.
- god exists, but not hell.
I personally think god exists, but as a 'universal consciousness' which includes everything in the universe.
It is not a personal, separate entity, and it created nothing, especially not hell.
Storm1752
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Mar 11, 2020
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That argument is know colloquially as the abusive husband/father excuse
The man beating his wife/child screams "Why do you make me do this to you, it's your fault I have to beat you, it was your choice to not have my dinner on the table when I came home, I told you what would happen, so don't blame me!"
This god screams "Follow my rules or you will burn forever, not my fault, that is just the rule I made, it is your fault not mine if you don't obey me."
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