@jorj But even if you didn't believe the accusations (I certainly don't) you wouldn't vote for him anyway, so your likely-feigned outrage is really a ruse.
In fact, you're a sore loser, throwing a childish temper tantrum, taking your toys and going home.
If it had been St. Bernie accused of sexual misconduct,you would have in the front row screaming his innocence.
The fact is, JOE BIDEN WON BECAUSE MORE DEMOCRATS VOTED FOR HIM THAN THEY DID ANYBODY ELSE, INCLUDING BERNIE SANDERS!
Hey, I voted for Bernie. I wanted him to win. I've a feeling you yourself are lying and are a Republican troll.
A genuine, sincere liberal, I'll vote for fellow liberal Joe Biden. You'll probably vote for Trump. That's your right. Go for it. Trump is going to lose, but with loyal Trump foot soldiers like you it might be actually, inexplicably close.
Whatever.
Biden has real blemishes on his record. I acknowledge that. But he is an incomparably better choice. Period.
Do or say what you want. You and other Trump Trolls on here are a disgrace to the overall democratic process. If you really are liberals (I doubt it) you are a disgrace to the cause. Hope you're enjoying yourselves.

@OwlInASack Of course I understand the anti-Biden arguments! I already said I voted for Sanders! But he lost (and don't give me the 'dirty tricks' excuse. They made valid arguments Bernie is too 'radical' (in the brainwashed popular mind) to get elected. Right or wrong, correct or incorrect, fair or unfair, it stuck.
My obvious point is, taking it out on Biden is not only pointless but extremely injurious.
Say Biden is elected. Then 'we' are back in the executive branch, possibly with majorities in both Chambers of Congress. From there we can show we've learned from Obama's naivete, Clinton's 'triangulation' and 'third way' futility (not to mention that looks quaintly passe these days), Kerry's odd passivity, and Hillary's overconfidence, and set things up so we begin TAKING CONTROL of the narrative this time.

1. Reinstitute the Fairness Doctrine.
2. Open up the voting franchise again, making it easier to vote, not next to impossible,
3. Appoint our share of federal judges,
4. Bolster the morale by strengthening the civil service,
5. Strengthen Obamacare and expand Medicare,
6. In many other ways great and small begin to turn the tide back to the progressive agenda.
   Joe Biden isn't in and of himself 'the answer.' He's one flawed voice.
   But d*mn, we have to start somewhere!
   Once we regain the majorities in reality as well as raw numbers, we can push that advantage. But lost in the wilderness as we still are, the crazy-train tea party, libertarian, racist, etc., Republican Looney Tunes get bolder and more extreme, to the point I'm beginning to fear for the future of this country!
   STOP damning the good to go down in flames in the name of perfection!
   It's crazy!

@jorj Thanks for acknowledging your Trojan Horse status. You obviously do not vote on the ISSUES, but strictly according to emotional outburst.
You're the type who one day votes for Obama, the next day for Trump, the next for...who?
No. Don't tell me. I don't want to know.
Tulsi Gabbard?!?
Figures.
Look, speaking of crazy trains, I'm getting off this one.
Good luck voting for lost causes and vacuous, empty burkas.
Now go away.

@jorj Good. Stay home. Enjoy Trump II.

@jorj Truth? Yes, I know the truth: if more than a tiny minority feel like you, the blow to Republicans from all this Trumpian failure will be blunted, and they could very well survive intact. From that, recovery and renewed strength could follow.
That's the truth. It's depressing, dampens enthusiasm, lowers expectations.
These kinds of things are contagious, like a bad virus. I can only hope people like you are few and far between.
Good day to you, sir.

@jorj I guess you didn't understand: I 'get' your bitterness. I just think it better to BUILD on the positive rather than continually blow things up and start over. We just have different approaches to life.
Talk to you again some time, at which juncture I will once again endeavor to cheer you up.
BYE.

@jorj I was being sarcastic because it's frustrating to converse with someone with a basic difference of opinion who will not change his mind and I think obviously should! I can only say I admire your passion and conviction, but unless you are committed to a violent revolution (which isn't going to happen unless the entire system crashes and burns) the electoral process is all we have, and in my opinion it's better to have someone in office whose values and political positions are closer to one's own. NOT voting for that available person to me simply does not make sense.
Anyway, I'm confident a sea change is coming in November, and you might end up thanking Trump for making it possible!

@jorj Okay. Well hopefully Joe will win anyway, and Democratic candidates up and down the line. THEN maybe we can get fairer election laws so the party won't be forced to trend rightward. We both know Democrats are increasingly forced out of the process. And off AM radio. And out of the Supreme Court. Etc. But I don't work for anyone's campaign. I'd just like to see a more liberal country. But yada yada yada. Sorry you refuse to participate in a meaningful way. After the landslide win this year, I think you'll start to see the progressive changes you've been hoping for. Too bad you'll have nothing to do with it. I'm not 'shaming' you, just stating a fact.

@jorj You're crazy if you think that's even remotely possible, but then again a man-made disaster like another killer virus on top of this one, causing a monster depression, for instance, or a nuclear explosion somewhere...it wouldn't take much, I admit.
I'll man the ramparts WITH you, sir!

She must really be making the big bucks to have devoted her life to these accusation and planned it out so far in advance. I mean the Trump team must have gotten to her and her mother back in 93 when her mom called Larry King to ask advice about an issue her daughter was having with a Senator. And she made sure to deceive her husband about it so that when they got divorced in 96, a note was entered into the court documents referring to trauma she suffered while working under Joe due to harassment.

You know, I usually think of the Trump people as bumbling idiots but in this case, they were extremely prudent and thought ahead decades in advance. It's remarkable that they were able to recruit Tara so far back and have her strategically plant evidence which would someday, be so helpful for Trump.

And it looks like she must have planted even more evidence in Joe's Senatorial papers that he has locked up at the University of Delaware. Clearly there's something in those files that Joe doesn't want the public to see because he refuses to open them and has no reason for keeping them hidden.

Gosh, Tara must really be getting paid enormously for all of that.

Most likely deferred payments more professionally handled than Trump's bungled payments to the porn star

I pity YOU for being so easily manipulated.

That's true. There's plenty of more relevant blights on Joe's record that we should be focusing on because they are indicative of his poor leadership much more so than this scandal.

@RoboGraham You're a right-wing troll, Graham. In fact, you're probably a robot, with obviously nothing better to do than throw spitballs across the classroom at the smart row.

@Storm1752

If you think I'm right wing, you clearly haven't got clue.

Robots don't throw spitballs, they haven't got any spit.

And you don't throw a spitball anyway, you blow it through a straw.

If she had allegations half as credible against a republican, they would be screaming from the rooftops that she must be believed.