Pretty much bit for completely different reasons. They're both corrupt but she's weak and feckless and has the leadership aptitude of a potted plant. She has no business in the third highest position of authority in government.

@Sgt_Spanky Pelosi is destroy-the-fabric-of-our-democracy corrupt? May I ask for an example?

@JeffMurray Pelosi is the more standard -- I'm in it for the money and power and I serve my donors corrupt -- but simply because she's not out to destroy democracy doesn't make her any more palatable to me. If you like her, fine, I can't stand her uselessness and total lack of inspiration in her job. She not a leader of any kind or merit, she's just a political player.

@Sgt_Spanky I think one of the most depressing things I've learned about the American electorate is how completely inept they are at assessing levels of danger. Especially for Republicans, who are constantly touting how much they love living in a free Democracy, they can't recognize the difference between a "bad option" and a democracy-ending one. And that's not hyperbole. There are almost no checks on him, and given 4 more years, he'll probably get two more Supreme Court judges, and with no worries about re-election, he'll do whatever he wants.

@altschmerz Yeah, that doesn't really make her seem terrible like Spanky suggests.

@altschmerz Not necessarily. There could be a lot of those that were irrelevant or already guaranteed to go one way that she didn't need to vote on. Quality, not quantity...

@JeffMurray It also does nothing to contradict my assessment of her as weak, feckless and corrupt. She's another one who's overstayed her time in Congress.

@Sgt_Spanky Maybe the corrupt part. Can you please point to the votes from those links that shows how corrupt she is? I would like to use it as evidence when I tell my congressperson how to vote next time. Thank you.

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@Sgt_Spanky See this is the kinda stuff I don't understand. You seem to be a self-described liberal, but you trash talk the party and then can't even back up the claim.

@JeffMurray What makes you think I owe you any explanations for what I think or how I feel about anything? I'll answer that for you, I don't. You don't have to understand my point of view, I do.

@Sgt_Spanky So you'll spew a bunch of shit all over the place and then not back it up? Isn't that what religious people do? And that wasn't merely a "point of view," that was an assertive claim. I expected more from a member of an agnostic group. It does seem peculiar, however, that you have no problem responding and explaining as long as you have an answer, however hollow, but as soon as someone challenges you to actually support your claim, suddenly you're Mr. I-don't-need-to-explain-myself.

@JeffMurray I'm crushed that you find me to be such a disappointment I explained myself as much as I'm going to and I'll even recap it for you. Based on her performance these last four years, particularly in the run up to impeachment where she really lost me, Pelosi has proven to me to be weak and ineffectual. She's a masterful player at politics while demonstrating no real leadership skills. Like all corporatists she's devoted to her donors and their money. She's not a leader, she's just a political player.

If that's not good enough for you, get yourself a crayon and write a letter to your Congressman and maybe he/she will draft legislation that demands I have to explain myself to JeffMurray's satisfaction.

Til then, I guess you're outta luck.

Not bad at all. See? There's a lot to puke about with your people. You'd have had even more but I didn't have room for all of Trump's Cabinet. I did revise it and add Bill Barr so five noiw.

@Sgt_Spanky Yeah. I understand. Liberals hate people that accomplish positive things for the better good. It makes them feel like they have to actually work to accomplish things for themselves.

@CourtJester Yeah, that, or...liberals hate blatant corruption by people who are elected to serve the public good but instead exploit their positions to benefit themselves and a privileged few. See, liberals aren't lazy or want to see America fail, they just don't like scumbags lying to them and fucking them over. Take it from a liberal, that's the problem. The fact that so many of the corrupt scumbags are Republican isn't our fault. Stop electing people like that and we'll all get along fine.

@CourtJester Please name the "positive things for the better good" Barr is responsible for.

That is a great movie scene...

It's good to be the king...of the Jews.

Not the same at all.

@Sgt_Spanky Suit yourself, I'm fine with using the angry emoji to vote negatively.

How on earth did I miss Mitch?? Corrected.

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Why not Democracy Destroyer, Trump Helper Bernie Sanders??

@Sgt_Spanky he is #11
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@St-Sinner Let it go. He's gone.

@Sgt_Spanky
But I see him and I puke every time.