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Thanks for trying to hang on, Justice RBG. Your effort will be remembered by the undergound. Unfortunately, her death means that usa is also dead. 45 will contest the election results and win in his SCOTUS.

rainmanjr 8 Sep 18
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Six of one, half dozen of the other. Either way, you lose.

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WE MUST VOTE and we must win by such a large margin that there can be no question as to the legitimacy of the election.

How any agnostic or atheist can be a tRump supporter, with his catering to the will of evangelical theocrats, is beyond me. Given the power, they will be every bit as bad as the Taliban; and they are working on having that power.

It's not the quantity of votes but that Mid-Western states, Az, maybe Fl vote for Joe. That informs the Electoral College and their certification is what matters. They are not subject to fraud, or tampering, or ID so if Joe hits 270 then he legitimately wins.

@rainmanjr : Yes, the swing states must show up and vote for Biden/Harris.

It is my hope that the antiquated Electoral College will be abolished. And, I don't buy the "small states" argument. The President is the only elected official who is supposed to represent everyone--every vote should count equally.

Each state has two Senators, no matter the population. They are already overrepresented there, and that is enough.

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Proof of no God unless a sadist , we need to fight this

bobwjr Level 10 Sep 19, 2020
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If we ever needed proof that there is no god, well, here it is.

Deb57 Level 8 Sep 19, 2020

it's more the pathology of social evolution that creates it, I'm sure, but I would argue to Xtians that maybe God directed us to see a problem and an opportunity to become better disciples by working out way out of it. The Xtians won't respond favorably to challenge about their evidence so just go with trying to make them question their interpretation of what God is telling us.

I tend to be dismissive with believers who attribute deities with natural occurrences. Much like I do with people who mansplain or offer unsolicited advice.

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Trump stinks but your analysis is worse.

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Trump woke up this morning thinking about who could he get to fill RBG's seat This son-of-a-bitch should not be allowed to fill another SCOTUS opening this close to an election but we all know that he and Rs will try their best to do just that.

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2020 giving us any BIG smack in the face.

It actually feels more like a kick in the balls.

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Breaking NEWS!

Republican Senator Lisa Murkowski announced she will not vote to replace Ruth Bader Ginsburg until after a new president is elected. "Fair is fair," Murkowski said. "That would be a double standard and I will not support it."

In 2018, Senator Lindsey Graham said:

"If a Supreme Court seat comes in the last year of Trump's presidency, and the primary process has started, we're wait until the next election to fill the seat."

Write Senator Graham to remind him to keep his promise.

Lisa I believe, the rest I trust as far as I can throw them. I always thought we live in interesting time, but this is getting rediculous. Trump has to lose the next election no matter what. If he does not them the we are all done for. Trump as dictator will not be good for the world, much less the USA..

@dalefvictor

Who is Lisa?

@LiterateHiker I do not know why but occasionally when I start typing the first words do not show up and are misspelled. I have no idea who Lisa is. Lisa Murlowski.

Hypocrites all of them if they try now to replace her!

@dalefvictor

Lisa Murkowski is an Alaska senator.

[news.yahoo.com]

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I am heartbroken for our nation tonight. I thought this year could not get any worse but now this and I am sure with her gone, it will get even worse than we can imagine.

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Not unless we come out to vote overwhelmingly against him.
And I'm pretty sure every one of the scotus is against him. Remember they can't be fired, but they sure can fire him!

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Our next president, Joe Biden, will have the option to add 2 new seats to the Supreme Court and then name 2 new candidates for the bench. Let us hope we also end up with a blue senate.

Justice Ginsberg was a hero. We are all deeply touched by her death.

Joe has already stated he won't increase the Court. Who said she wasn't?

@rainmanjr I don't understand your question. There was no implication that anyone said she wasn't.

In lieu of this new development, Biden might reconsider expanding the court. We can only hope.

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If that comes to pass, then there's nothing left to do but get in the streets and revolt, whether violently or not, because if it's just allowed to stand, then fascism will be out in the open and tolerated. After that, further elections will be pointless once that precedent is set.

I will not knuckle under. I’m well read into World War 2 history and the history of Nazi Germany. Look at what happened when 600 people escaped from Sobibor death camp in 1943, or when Jews fought back against the Wehrmacht and SS troops in the Warsaw Ghetto the same year. These folks knew they had no chance of winning with the few weapons and homemade grenades they had up against the tanks, artillery. The. Flamethrowers and dynamite squads used by the SS. It was the will to fight and die with honor rather than being led like cattle into the death camps. True Bravery that is to me. I own 2 rifles that I keep around for personal protection. They don’t go out of my house at any time except when I go to a shooting range. But I will say this, Anybody, I don’t care who you are........what you are, if you attempt to hurt me or a friend or family member, I won’t hesitate to shove a plunger in your ass. Or to throw acid in your face for that matter. I’m not a believer in the Death Penalty because I don’t view it as a real punishment. If someone gets acid splashed in their face they will be forever blinded and even scarred. And they will have those injuries forever to remind them of their stupidity. My 2 nieces aged 23 and 26 I replaced their pepper spray holders with acid and told them, if someone tries to cause you harm, DO NOT FEEL BAD ABOUT HURTING THEM. they are bad people. So........if something to that extent happens, myself and others close to me, including a few cops, something else to remember.........Fear and pain are great motivators.

@SeaRay215ex Sounds like a good plan. The sad thing is that most Americans would probably act like docile sheep and let themselves be enslaved or slaughtered..

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Will all the Senate Republicans actually do this? Do they actually know what they're doing? Is this the time for revolution?

That remains to be seen but I believe they will. Romney might not but, just as in the impeachment "trial", he'd be the only one.

Bring it on.

@rainmanjr A number of fairly high-placed Republicans are jumping ship. I'm hopeful that enough Senators will bail to keep Trump/McConnell from stuffing another goddamn conservation on the SCOTUS.

@mischl The defections aren't coming from within Senate caucus. That won't stop them from reaching for the golden ring, I'm afraid. I'd go with impeachment but I'm not in charge.

@rainmanjr I don't think the impeachment route cold work because there's too little time.

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Horrible

bobwjr Level 10 Sep 18, 2020
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This is so sad...

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Washington Senator Patty Murray send me an email:

Friends,

I am devastated for a million reasons. I know you are too. Ruth Bader Ginsburg was my North Star, just like she was for so many of us.

But here is what I want you to remember. Every one of those million reasons we’re devastated is a reason to fight, with absolutely everything we’ve got, to make sure the American people have their next President before Justice Ginsburg’s seat is filled. And that is what I will do -- for our state, for our country, and for the vision of justice and equality for all that Justice Ginsburg gave her all to advance.

I’ll have more to say soon -- but for now, know that I’m with you and I’m not going to stop fighting for RBG’s last wish. I know you won’t either.

Thank you,

Patty

Patty must know that there's no fight. Joe didn't come out saying he'll fight an appointment. Doesn't matter how hypocritical it is, McConnell doesn't give a damn about that, he won his insurrection against President Obama simply by saying no. Obama should have done whatever possible to beat McConnell but he didn't and this is the price for not using his power. Sorry, Patty, but it's a new nation.

@rainmanjr

You are wrong. Democrats will fight McConnell and Trump tooth-and-nail. Republicans only have a three-person majority in the Senate.

We Democrats, anti-Republicans and independents are going to turn the Senate and presidency BLUE by a landslide.

Joe Biden can appoint two more liberal Supreme Court justices. We Democrats will pressure him to do so.

The last president to increase the number of Supreme Court justices was Franklin D. Roosevelt.

@LiterateHiker Show me. I'm okay with being proven wrong. I've stated a few times in this thread that Joe has said he won't increase the Court and that an appointment of 45's should be heard so he isn't of any help. Joe is the leader of Democratic party and he's not interested in fighting the gop. He's fighting 45 but loves being friends with gop Senators.

@rainmanjr

I don't want to argue with you.

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I don't think an angry 65% of the US population will let that happen.
When it comes down to it neither will law enforcement or the military.
Well, some law enforcement will, but they're no match.

I hope that cooler heads will prevail, and the appointment will be deferred until well after the inauguration.

u$A has little stomach for the kind of resistance necessary to hope overthrowing Trump now.

@rainmanjr Never underestimate anything.

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