I assumed the singular on the good because I think good is the natural inherent state of all things and the universe is all connected. I think little rampant evils, have tried to control it from the control center, but those being anomalies and not interconnected with the rest, are more than one because of being separate entities. I'm working with a lot of theories here, but trying to get food for thought and yes I'm bored. If I assume every body has good intentions, then what causes them to act very badly sometimes, without reason toward others? I am assuming lack of adequate reason due to selfish gain exclusively. I suppose the alternate perspective is if their trained, by life to have such a strong need to exploit others and somehow not acting on evil in that way, but still hurting others.

If we were the highest intellect and abilities in the universe, would that make use gods to the rest of life?

@Desertcactus The odds are against us being (or having been) the highest intellect in the universe. But separated by the immensity of space and time, we may never know otherwise. The only life we know exists here on this world and to a simple organism like a paramecium we are as gods, though I would not necessarily choose that term.

@p-nullifidian I suppose I will have to be content with that for now. I just get so curious and start fishing for more ideas now and then.

I am wondering I suppose because of all the papers getting leaked about the government interacting with other life forms, like aliens. I was thinking that perhaps a group of aliens, if having more abilities and significant knowledge, would be gods to us?

@Desertcactus Which leaked papers? I'm afraid I'm ignorant on the subject of government interactions with other lifeforms, e.g., extraterrestrial aliens. How does that relate to the forces for good and evil you referenced in your original post?

@resserts I think its called project bluebook on archives.gov and UFOindex on NSA.gov.

@resserts The assumption of evil is from lack of evidence that people who exploit children especially using religion to justify, are doing things they know are harmful for personal gain, without real need at the great expense of others. I believe religion is evil because it keeps people questioning themselves that they may be the evil ones if their not careful enough, and steals their confidence to control them.

Heres a news story on one of the docs. [vice.com]

Thats well documented cover up, lie. Religion has ALWAYS been about exploiting others. Have you ever seen the pedophile glorifying poetry published by nuns at the dawn of catholicism? Have you ever read about the word NUN in the early church? "NUN" was synonymous with prostitue. Your incompetent, ignorant and severely misled.

@Desertcactus If YOU'RE going to call someone else "incompetent" and "ignorant", it would have more credibility if you spelled all the words correctly.

@Desertcactus I don't know much about nuns any why would you call what they do religious? It is just like illogical atheist Jim Jones that used "religion" to get people out of "religion " then kill 900 people.

@LovinLarge Intellect has no logical correlation to ability to spell english. You seemed to miss a few steps of your premises there.

@Desertcactus All of your posts and comments are nonsensical. You are not all there. Blocked.

So, how were the pyramids built? And I don't believe any of this has to do with religion except that religion hijacked some, formerly universal knowledge and used it for their own gain.

That makes a lot of sense. Do you believe there are things that have more power than humans?

@Desertcactus In the sense of alien species most probably, but its a big universe, a lot of space for them to hide. In the sense of supernatural beings, I honestly doubt it.

@Fernapple I guess I was considering "supernatural" the same as "existing in other dimensions, or unknown to our current natural world understanding"

Ya, I'm just saying it seems like that to me. So why? Why have so many throughout history thought that way? I don't think it was just religion, but that those thoughts drew them toward religion out of ignoranace.

Makes sense, just looking for explanations of why it seems that way. Like, if there were aliens or. something else, that was more powerful, wouldn't they be a sort of god to us?

@Desertcactus

Oh, I see. I did not understand at first. I would think that aliens would not be supernatural, D therefore not “gods”. How do you mean “... it seems that way.”? In what way does it seem so?

@BlizzardMan It seems that us humans are too stupid to make life work witlhout outside help historically. Something helped us. Thats where the science starts looking like its missing something from our evolution. The pyramids being one example of things that were accomplished that are not possible with just humans today. I suppose I consider aliens supernatural if their not in the same confinement of 3 dimensions that we are.

@Desertcactus

Pretty sure the pyramids were man-made:

[history.com]

@BlizzardMan Who gave them the knowledge of how? The idea that humans formerly were more capable than humans are now, doesn't fit with evolution unless another source of information is brought into the picture. Unless perhaps were devolving, moving backwards in abilities somehow.

@Desertcactus

Who ever gives humans the knowledge “How”? It’s a process. Also, the Egyptian civilization lost its prowess and declined. Therefore, their knowledge faded.

@BlizzardMan So do you think the Government is just following rabbit trails when their studying UFO's and alien activity?

@Desertcactus

I’m not sure there are even doing that.

Actually the question was asking if others had evidence for my feelings.

@Desertcactus How could other people have evidence for your feelings? Surely you're not asking members of a non-religious website for evidence to support religiosity.

You said that "there must be some sort of higher power that is good, and there certainly has to be powers that are evil." Upon what evidence are those conclusions based?

@LovinLarge Are you just trollin around looking for someone to spew crap at? Dang, I thought I was bored.

@Desertcactus Still zero evidence to support your claims. You have zero credibility.