@Paul4747 You can't seriously say those presidents actually represented the left in the US or were anywhere near as left in their domestic policies as LBJ was....

@TomMcGiverin I can and I do. All were Democrats, all were liberals. Clinton attempted health care for all and Obama succeeded in the largest expansion of health care since Medicaid.

You're using your own personal definition of "the left". Quibbling over a matter of degree is what has kept the Democrats divided and enabled the Republicans, a minority party, to take 3 out of the last 5 presidential elections. They don't worry about "who the true conservative is" when it comes time to vote- they just worry about who is close enough to their own interests.

Oh, that 1 percent more Democrats had done that four years ago, instead of complaining that Hilary wasn't a "true" liberal.

The best is the enemy of the good.

Carter was WAY left of Reagan (not hard to do!), Clinton was left of Bush Sr.

Granted, both Hillary and Bill, and Obama are Centrists, really. (The center has been re-labelled "left." ) But being perceived as centrist has won elections. Whether Sanders could have won this time or last time is debatable. I hope to see the day when AOC can win.

You can't ignore and can't win without the centrist voters in America. But I'm all for pushing for progressive change after winning elections. I think it's a matter of the horse before the cart.