Does his mind work that fast?

@Petter the man’s dumber than a football bat. There’s no way he actually got more votes than any president in history. No way.

@CourtJester ..... and "battier" than a cricket ball??

My review: 2 thumbs up

I believe it's state law, actually, an automatic recount. But his margins in several other states might be bulletproof. In Michigan, for example, about 160,000; no supposed "ballot errors" can account for 160,000 votes.

@Paul4747 Yes, it is automatic. I did not mean that the Governor will order a recount, but that it is moving toward that because of the law.

@Rodatheist Gotcha. My reply was mostly to clarify for the audience; so many of us are tired and not everyone has had time to dig deep into the patchwork of state laws, especially this year.

@Paul4747

There is a chance that he could en up with 306 electoral votes.

absolutely. The fuel that runs a capitalist society is consumption. Consumers actually having money to consume products and services. Example: raising the minimum wage fuels consumption, and business profits.

@Leetx The Harris/Squad team are not promoting Nordic style socially responsible classical liberal capitalism. The team are promoting pure Socialism, which has never been proven to work.

nonsense @PBuck0145

No one is. As of 6:45 pacific time on 11/6/2020, the votes are still being counted. Biden has a thin winning margin in Nevada, Georgia, and Pennsylvania, but there are enough uncounted votes that the trend could still be reversed. And the governor of Georgia says there may be a recount because the margin of difference is 0.1%.

@Rodatheist
No reason for celebration yet. Al Gore was undone with the SC vote. A hero to zero in one day. #46 will be 404 Error.

@St-Sinner The lousy excuse we have for president will keep going to the courts until the cows come home. But he does not have any recourse. His lawsuits have been dismissed left and right. I don’t se a path to the Supreme Court yet. He is used to go to court and win By overwhelming his opponents with a big legal team and money; he is so stupid he does not know it does not work that way for the presidency.

@Rodatheist

The time for Democrats to reflect on these so we do not lose the House in mid terms

1. What happened to the blue wave?
2. How did socialist misadventures hurt?
3. How much did Bernie hurt Democrats and help Trump?
4. How did the stupidity of Green New Deal hurt?
5. How did we lose House seats?
6. Why do the Democrats not have the descipline and unity like the Republicans have?
7. Why was it difficult to defeat such unpopular, criminal, immoral, nepitist president during a oandemic and collapsing economy?
8. Did the black VP candidate hurt in the South?

The time to keep blaming and hating the enemy is over.

@St-Sinner The enemy will always try, and in many occasions will succeed, in stopping and stifling us, so, the time to blame the enemy is never over.
It was difficult to defeat such an inept president (and it has not happened yet) because his supporters are closed minded deplorables whose intent is to impose their way of life and beliefs onto all of us (and you will only have to ask women seeking abortions after RvW is over turned to see how dead serious they are about such impositions). In contrast, progressive people, by nature, are not so intent on imposing their views on others. If we were, and we all came out to vote, there would be no republicans in public office. So, progressives, not just the Democrats, have our work cut out for us.

Didn't want to wake you up.
Go back to sleep. I'll wake you up in four years when Kamala Harris is president.

Banish the outdated, anachronistic, and obsolete electoral college!

@Storm1752 so that New York, LA, Chicago, Miami, Atlanta, and Houston can decided for the entire country???? Seriously???

That’s why we have the electoral college.

In the words of Biden... Come on man....

@Storm1752 [nationalpopularvote.com]

@Rodatheist hahaha. Has the Supreme Court seen that yet? That goes against all 50 states election laws that they agreed to year ago.
What kind of retard would put faith in that?

@CourtJester Perhaps if you care to read with more attention to detail. It does not go against the constitution in that it does not deny the states to choose their delegates, as the constitution mandates. But the winner-takes-all laws are not in the constitution and this compact is to allow the states to ditch that system and designate their delegates using the actual individual vote count in that state in conjunction with thee rest of the states that are members of the compact. It is not unconstitutional.

@Rodatheist huh?

@CourtJester What was not clear?

Sorta fresh.

He refers to no longer be under an incompetent clinically mentally ill individual who could not care less about the country of democracy if it goes against his own personal interests. IT IS a fresh start for a country that has come to the edge of the precipice and still is not fully moving back away from it.

@Rodatheist

Doing the same thing as before is not fresh.

That's going backwards. Back to the policies that caused the rise of Trump.

@RoboGraham If you think there were some specific policies of Obama's that let Trump win the White House, you're mistaken.

Number one, a large percentage of his voters don't know and don't care about policy, because they get their world view through an increasingly inaccurate filter of Fox opinion hosts, who are unabashedly the Republican party's propaganda arm, and social media sources of their own choice, which reinforce their preexisting beliefs while allowing them to ignore or reject as "fake news" anything that contradicts them. This is a process that began in the late 1980s; Trump just coined a name for what many on the right already believed in practice.

Number two, Trump's platform, such as it was, had nothing to do with the actual policies of the Obama administration.
He claimed he was going to get us out of trade deals in which we were "getting ripped off"- these were deals supported by both parties from the beginning, and in fact lowered consumer prices for Americans while givng us a huge trade surplus in services.
He claimed he was going to "rebuild the military"- the military was leaner because it no longer had to be geared to fight a major war on two continents at once after the collapse of the USSR, and because we had a string of strong alliances around the world ("had" is now the operative word).
And he claimed that we were being flooded with immigrants who were taking American jobs, when the truth is immigrants were doing jobs that American workers don't want to do, like migrant farm labor at minimum wage.

Trump's claim to be a "non-politician, a champion for the working man, a self-made, successful businessman who would 'drain the swamp'" was built, simply, on lies. He has never been a self-made man; he's declared bankruptcy 6 times. His father once rescued him by buying a fortune in casino chips which he never cashed in, allowing him to make a mortgage payment. He has a long history of stiffing contractors and then inviting them to take him to court where he can litigate for years, so they were forced to settle for a fraction of what they were owed. And he has a history of surrounding himself with sycophants and sucking up to power. Trump had no intention of "draining the swamp", he simply intended to profit from it.

Some of Trump's base is evangelical Christians who look no farther than his promise to install "pro-life, pro-Christian" judges and ignore the rest of his character flaws; they talk themselves into believing that God has some plan which involves Trump, and couldn't possibly involve a Democrat who isn't a compulsive liar and womanizer.

Some are cynical Republicans who simply want to dominate the levers of power, no matter what.

And the loudest are those who see Trump as a leader who gives them license to vent their hatreds and prejudices instead of holding them in check. It's now okay to say that Mexicans are rapists, all Muslims are potential terrorists, and women are just sex items to be grabbed if you can get away with it. It's okay to be a white supremacist, the president not only won't repudiate you, he'll encourage you and sic the troops on your opponents! Trump's loathsomeness isn't a bug, it's a feature. He lets them "own the libs". The perfect example is the 25 year old Congressman-elect whose first official tweet was, "Cry more, lib."

Going back to a time when foreign policy was not conducted by tweeting insults of foreign leaders, when economic decisions were not made by testing it out for 6 months to see what happened to the GDP... back to when a differing opinion was not treated as treason... to when scientific policy advisers were scientists... that's exactly what we need now.

@RoboGraham Ok, don’t call it a fresh start; call it a second chance to do things right.

@Paul4747 Extremely well put.

@Paul4747

I agree that a large number of his voters are persuaded by fox. And those people would vote republican regardless. The fearmongering of fox works on them. It's not them who swung the election in Trump's favor in 16.

Sure, Trump's platform had nothing to do with Obama's policies. And it was Obama's policies that failed to live up to the Obama hype, failed to satisfy working class voters' needs which left an opening for a demagogue like Trump to play off of the anger of these disappointed people by appealing to xenophobic tendencies of people afraid of losing their livelihoods.

Obama sided with the big banks and corporations who crashed the economy in 08 rather than the people made destitute by that economic catastrophe. He bailed them out and did nothing to stop the predatory evictions. He sided with the health insurance companies rather than giving us a rational single payer system. He expanded the Middle Eastern wars rather than ending them. He didn't legalize cannabis, he didn't offer student debt relief, he crushed the occupy wall street movement rather than supporting it, he did nothing to help the Flint water crisis, he didn't increase the minimum wage, he continued the drug war, he didn't support unions, he took corporate money just like the rest of them... His policies did not deliver on the hope and change that he promised us and this left many feeling bitter and betrayed. That's way there were so many in the rust belt who voted Obama twice and then switched to Trump in 16. At least Trump was offering them something, all lies of course, but they saw some hope in his bluster of bringing manufacturing and mining jobs back, loosening regulations, restricting immigration, and countering free trade deals. Obama's failures caused the circumstances Trump needed to rise to power.

Yes, a large portion of Trump's voters are evangelicals, and those people would vote republican regardless. They are the republican base and it wasn't them who caused Trump to win. They will support the republican automatically, even if he is married three times and grabs pussies and sleeps with porn stars, because they are ideological. The people who shifted the dynamic to Trump's favor were the typical working class folks who felt betrayed and left behind by democrat policies.

I agree that we need to have a leader who will listen to the scientists and not do foreign policy via tweet, but we don't have to go backward for that. Any reasonable leader will do that. This reasonable leader could also take us forward and solve these problems that the country is facing. If we don't address these pressing issues (and it looks as though Joe will do very little) in four years, the democrats will be unpopular again and the door will be open for an even worse Trump to take control and ruin this great country.

Who?

@Storm1752 "U. No Hoo."
I believe he is in a large building with a soon to expire lease in Washington, DC.

I just called it, so it's official.

@Storm1752 Not yet. Four days out. Some people said it would take months. Let's hope it doesn't.

True. But better.

@Storm1752 unfortunately Trump wasn't the problem, just a symptom.

It has always been and I don’t see any movement to change that. But at least let’s have a president that is not mentally ill.