@SeaRay215ex HOLY COW

Sounds like a song I know, but I love it!

Every one knows you need to get a quarter sd slot converter.

I love your analogy!

@anglophone Thank you.

@PondartIncbendog I’ve been praying for one of those.

Ohhh, you know your A B Cs. Very good!!

Could you explain, I'm confused............

Yeh like dinosaur bones. It’s a test of faith lol

Matthew 7:13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:

14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

That is sooo good!

It requires blind obedience.

Very interesting!

My current fascination is why/how are they so convinced the Bible is the word of God/divinely inspired. Many would say because Jesus believed in it. Of course the only reason to think so, reasoning circularly, is because the Bible says so. It all hinges on the Bible. For this reason I feel that the number one line of attack for getting through to the religious and undermining their faith is to expose the bible - it's dubious origins, development, contradictions, and errors. I think it would be more fruitful if more of us focused on the Bible, rather than on the lack of evidence for any god.

@Rossy92 When some church person pushes their dogma on me, I repeat what most evangelicals say: The bible is the unerring inspired word of God. I then ask about the king James version, that does it have any errors or completely error free. They always affirm that the KJV has been guided by God and therefore is error free. I then ask they where are the unicorns that are mentioned five times but do not appear in the fossil record nor exist today. Some then try to backpedal, and say that the mention of unicorns must mean a different animal...perhaps a rhinoceros to which I tell them that no, that would then be en error in that the Asian rhino (the only one with a single horn), was known back then and was never called a "unicorn". Quote from a church lady: "I don't like all those new versions of the Bible...if the King James Bible was good enough for Jesus, it is good enough for me."

@dahermit Lol about that poor doubly ignorant church lady. While I've heard mention of the unicorn issue and intend to look further into to it just out of curiosity, it's one of those arguments which I personally would avoid in making my strongest cases. Just like the argument that the story of Christ is copied from so many other prior religions, it requires too much prior knowledge for the most people to even begin speak on, and in the end its not really a devastating argument because so much of it is speculative, and inconclusive.

@Rossy92 Yes, this is the best approach. I have no problems in not believing because of the idiocy in how the bible came into being. This includes time differences in the individual books, order of the books when made into one big book, and the many, many contradictions. The bible and the other so- called "sacred writings" all prove that man has made it all up. No gods have spoken or inspired anything at all.

And blind to it as well.

Yes, they are incapable of reason. The reason for that is that their prefrontal cortices have been terribly damaged by the way they have been brought up.

@anglophone On the money!

Theistic models do change but not because of evidence. They change as cultural understanding of the model shift and possibly require a change to remain relevant or to retain adherents to the faith. All the schisms within religions represent certain changes or resisting certain changes within a religion. Evolution of religions necessarily occurs even though most religions (if not all) try to deny the process.

That what evangelical folk already think.

@Diagoras you mean that it is a stitch up?