@Detached Totally agree as I've also been disappointed in love but I'm glad it happened as it was a very enlightening experience despite being very painful.
The pursuit of love is driven by needs, and some people just happen to be needier than others (and that could be related to the extent of their childhood emotional needs being met as they were growing up).
Once you fall in love you lose control of your life in some ways, you basically give up on the responsibility to meet your own needs whatever they might be.
The falling itself is rooted (subconsciosly) in the strong belief that your needs will be met by the other person but....the needier one is the more chances of disappointment and heartbreak. It's probably one of the most painful but useful lessons life can teach you....
Then you start taking care of your needs yourself instead of depending on one person, then life gets better and you get stronger than you have ever been before!

@LenHazell53 ............ maybe. but to think as he does, in the culture he comes from, that deserves the brass figligree with oak leaf clusters. the world is full of unknown heroes like him.

@Detached So she said to you. I never, ever wants to see you.

@Detached do you wonder whether you have “come into” this world, or have “come out” of it?

@Detached I understand and empathise with you. Feel the same as you on some of your points. However I feel you are missing the Art of life in your ethics.

They did, but I’m referring to their love for each other. It was beautiful.

@Detached You need to have a child of your own to understand that. In your case it will probably never happen.

@jolanta . Why must you turn this free thinking converation nasty and bitchy every time you speak?

@holdenc98 Oh I though it was about free conversation but maybe you only want sugary sweet stuff.

@Detached she answered very well. She doesn’t need your grief

@Detached you were rude to Johanna. As far as my parents go, you would have to ask them. As a parent, nurturing may be more instinctual, then propagating your bloodline.

@jolanta ... Being free is not an obligation to inflict hurt. Whats the point of that? Just talk amongst yourself.

This is a philosophy group, and philosophy requires detachment. You are obviously attached.

@yvilletom who the fuck cares about your requirements of this group or for philosophy, which by the way are totally and absolutely wrong? You are correct in one thing, though, I am attached to reality, evidence, humanity and definitely not to bullshit. For your education, this is what philosophy is: Philosophy (from Greek: philosophia, 'love of wisdom' is the study of general and fundamental questions, such as those about reason, existence, knowledge, values, mind, and language. Such questions are often posed as problems to be studied or resolved. Philosophical methods include questioning, critical discussion, rational argument, and systematic presentation. Does any of this sound as detachment to you? To post absurdities about love, no less, in a Philosophy group in which the name itself is derived from the LOVE of wisdom was total bs, and your detachment theory lies notbthat far from the poster's heap of dung.

@Mofo1953 Ah, you are again your usually gentle self, though at much greater length.

@yvilletom I feel so silly responding to some of these posts. I neglect to read which group they come from. If I saw that it was philosophy, I would know it’s time to contemplate my bellybutton lint....

@yvilletom sarcasm? Sure. But doesn't make you right at all so learn from my bluntness.

@Mofo1953 Not trying to be right; trying to be last. Period.

@yvilletom good to admit you're wrong. Now about being last, you can try but the only place you can truly be last is in your own retrograde mind.

@Mofo1953 ...BACK IN YOUR CAGE, MOFO! BACK I SAY! BACK !

@holdenc98 wait for it!

@Mofo1953 ... what di i just say to you mr mofo!....sit! ... sit ! .... now , STAY !

@holdenc98 fuck you! I don't sit or stay for anybody, much less for bitches like you. Although if you suck my dick I may allow you to swallow my jizz.

It may be rare, but I had one for about 15 years, but then dementia cheated both me and my wife from a much longer happy union. Glad to find out I'm the rare romantic. I suppose that's why I really miss having a partner and am not so bitter and cynical about relationships as most divorced people seem to be, because my one LTR was really positive. Now, talking about the dating game, that's another matter, as it has given me plenty to feel cynical and bitter about, probably because it is mostly filled by divorced people who are mostly bitter and cynical about relationships and love in general. Thus, they play a lot of games, project a lot of their stuff onto other people, and push most people away with their many defenses, at least, those are my theories on why the dating game sucks so much. I have a feeling if the dating sites were just widowed people, things would be much more positive and certainly more kinder.