About naturalism/nihilism. Naturalistic Nihilist ?!?
Do you ever think about life and its meaning? Does life have a meaning? Does existence have meaning? All these questions you have to ask yourselves and make up your own mind.
When the word nihilism comes up, where do you land?
In some ways I do consider myself a nihilist in some degree, but not the usual type. I believe you find meaning in your own life but on a cosmic scale life as we know it is meaningless.
I'm not the most educated on the latest origins of the universe (or its eventual end). From my understanding everything started with a big bang about 14 billion years ago, and from my understanding there are theories that the universe will one day stop expanding and will rapidly collapse on itself causing another Big bang. With that in mind does anything we ever do really matter? Even in a science fiction's utopian civilization like the star trek universe we wouldn't survive (maybe with technology from that time idk).
On a smaller scale, its a proven science the stars/suns eventually go super nova and explode or eventually run out of gases to burn and will die. (most of this is dumbed down to a high degree). So even in our solar system life as we know it will come to an end due to naturalistic means.
So to come to conclusion, do we have power over our own lives and others around us? To some degree yes. Does anything anyone ever does really matter compared to the test of time? Probably not.
Obviously life has meaning. How that meaning manifests itself is up to each individual. Since individuals make their own choices, obviously we have power over ourselves.
Can you give an example or two?
@racocn8 Choice of occupation. Choice about whether or not to marry. You can't think of any? Get serious.
I meant an example or two of the meaning life has, and how that meaning manifests itself.
@racocn8 Since I said the meaning of life is determined by one's choices, the aforementioned choices are etwo examples.
Extending that, if one chooses to marry the meaning quite possibly would revolve around parenting.
Words like matter or purpose or meaning have application within our subjective experience only to the extent we use them. Deeper reflection, or broader universal context, casts them into the fire. We have a little choice on the directions we send our minds, but not much more.
Life meaning defined by dictionary: the condition that distinguishes animals and plants from inorganic matter, including the capacity for growth, reproduction, functional activity, and continual change preceding death.
There is a host of things out of your(anyone's) control. As an initial starting point, now. Look at, or back for what you can see or know. What are you now and what got you here, now. Did you ask to exist, did you ask for the parents you have, did you ask for the society you were born into, did you ask for your genetics?
Constant Change, an oxymoron. The universe, movement of planets, your life is constantly changing some where some how. Your knowledge level changes, particularly increase from your childhood.
Existence does appear to have a lot of circles, things going around and around as if circular logic is the logic. It is because it is just because it is.
You can see, every thing before you could appear to have an end. Older people die, everyone appears to die, some just sooner than others.
Now, at this point what options do you have, ot how much consideration do you want to put into figuring your options from the point you are at now to get you to the foreseeable end. In that end what difference does it make to you or the world still exist beyond your end. And, as apparent, something like the Sun exploding or expanding into a red giant star ending all conceivable life on Earth.
Now and some limited future is all it appears we would have. Some slave driven to their death and their dead body burned in the great wall of China. Some complain about missing a shoe and meet a man without a foot. Knowledge, understanding and wisdom then we die. It's just experiences along the way.
It's all been considered for 1000s of years, you're not the first to question and most likely not the last to question.
Today I'm meditating on a quote from a video I shared about finding our limits. One of the guy's said "If we have free will then so do electrons."
That's an interesting statement for me. I'm a Dude who thinks electro-magnetism is the underlying fabric of the cosmic towel. Of Tao. I postulate that our "soul" is made up of the neurons forming our neural network. If those electrons have free will then maybe they choose to take up this residence and resume function? That makes them parasites. Maybe this whole thing is just electrons having a life? That would be hilarious.
In response to that idea someone said I should try past life regression to find out who I've been. My reply was thus: Whomever I was is not who I am now. For Tao time doesn't matter. The past no longer exists, we can even alter the emotional negatives from it through Zen principles, and the future is a hoax. We create a future by what we set our minds to but that can't be identified until we have done so. History majors do it.
We then manifest a story line for what we called into being, or "hoped" for, and that story line plays out over about thirty years. We kind of assume it will self-renew but maybe not. So long as it does we play out the next story line. Those story lines culminate in huge explosions about every 150 years. If the explosion is not fatal to the species then a new structure for stories has been created. Newton explained how that goes.
I would guess these networked electrons are merely continuing their existence by transferring from one shell to another. Like turning a laptop back on. The neural network simply resumes its function and that feels like a "purpose". But electrons with free will changes that idea. They might retain some stamp of a particularly strong emotional impact, such as horrible pain, and be evolving toward some purpose of their own.
The transfer of shells occurs when our brain tissue can no longer support the network. The electrons lose footing and life ebbs. Climaxing in a bright flash. Like a Supernova. This network of electrons then begin making connections in new tissue. Possibly they even generate a new vibration, or string, and everyone becomes a character of your string? This would all be along the lines of what MaryAnn Williamson's Course In Miracles teaches. Souls are bound to each other and play out new stories, switching roles, in an endless cycle.
The cosmic Laniakea looks a lot like a neural network. Might they be acting as networks for a Universal mind? Neurons composed of gases firing, making connections, and providing stimuli for a unified whole? Just like individuals forming a mass consciousness. Maybe that process informs Tao of the vibration each of us has created? Lau Tza and Buddha both said each one of us is God.
My Facebook ID once shared a quote from William Reardon: "Love is the fundamental understanding that all things are connected." I now see the eloquence of that definition with greater clarity. Only Tao could instrinsically understand it.
That is my meditation time. Peace and love.
I've been in the process of coming to similar conclusions in my thinking. This type of discussion is a big part of why I came to this site. It doesn't happen often enough. Thanks for the interesting discussion today.